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careerpilot 02-12-2020 12:42 PM

1st and 2nd year pay
 
What can you realistically expect to make year 1? and year 2? I would have to take a huge reduction in salary and trying to weigh my options.

Thanks in advance.

cadetdrivr 02-12-2020 01:00 PM

Plan for the worst and hope to be surprised later.

70hrs/mo x 12 mo x hourly rate = annual pay

If that doesn’t work, don’t take the job.

Dragon7 02-12-2020 01:48 PM

Year 1 and 2
 
Year 1 and 2 are going to be greatly impacted by when you start. For example start year 1 in January and year 1 will be 800-1000hrs x about $90/hr. Start in July and it would be about half that for the calendar year. But start in July your first year and second half of United year 1 will calendar year 2. So would bump up to about $140 an hour. I started in the summer and had a bigger W-2 from my previous job for just a couple months of work.

Year 2 I made low six figures.

Very happy i did it. YMMV.

Sixty N Two 02-12-2020 02:43 PM

The math is actually pretty straight forward. It’s just hourly rate x credited hours worked. But ultimately pay will vary based more on other factors. Most notably based on if you’re in a junior base and can hold a line vs a more senior base meaning you’ll be on reserve longer.

Reserve can probably expect the min pay of 73hr plus you can probably add a few extra hours (2-5) for unused shortcalls and field stand-by assignments. You may be able to aggressively pick up flying (allowed the day prior, if not previously assigned a trip) and earn enough credit hours to break the 73hr min but again that depends on availability of the Base/Equipment you get initially.

The sooner you can hold a line the quicker you’ll be able to make more money depending what’s available in your base/equipment bucket and on how much you wish to work (sounds like you’re willing) and how well you learn to use PBS (our scheduling/trip trading system) to trade and pick up trips.

Narrow body (737 or 320) San Fran and Newark are probably your best chance to get a line the fastest.

Hope that helps you figure out your situation. Good luck

rightside02 02-12-2020 03:29 PM

Really does vary when you get out of training, can you be in either SFO / EWR ready for summer flying and premium / volunteer flying as a reserve , willing to work on all your days off and be flexible than you can make a lot more . Really just depends how bad you want it.

PA Slammer 02-12-2020 05:37 PM

You need to look at what year you’ll actually make back the pay you lost.

Then how much more you’ll be making over the next few years after that.

A lot of us took a pay cut and lost the first year or two. But after a few years it was more than worth it.

careerpilot 02-12-2020 06:25 PM

Thanks for the input.

I have good corporate job that I never dreamed I would ever leave, but the long term compensation at the airlines is hard to ignore. Taking almost a 6 figure pay reduction initially is a tough pill to swallow.

C-17 Driver 02-12-2020 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 2975788)
Thanks for the input.

I have good corporate job that I never dreamed I would ever leave, but the long term compensation at the airlines is hard to ignore. Taking almost a 6 figure pay reduction initially is a tough pill to swallow.


You won’t be the first.

Airhoss 02-12-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 2975788)
Thanks for the input.

I have good corporate job that I never dreamed I would ever leave, but the long term compensation at the airlines is hard to ignore. Taking almost a 6 figure pay reduction initially is a tough pill to swallow.

Eventually like in under 10 years, probably less, you’ll be taking a huge 6 figure pay reduction by having stayed where you are. Just throwing it out there.

Poss 02-12-2020 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2975636)
Plan for the worst and hope to be surprised later.

70hrs/mo x 12 mo x hourly rate = annual pay

If that doesn’t work, don’t take the job.

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