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Old 02-23-2020 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Shack. Push crew wants an on time and it would be perfectly acceptable and safe to give it to them.... if it weren’t for that sentence in the FOM.

Until that changes....
Instituted during the P McDonald era. It's all about the Benjamins.

Gotta love those conditional push clearances to get you going. Are you really cleared to push as soon as he says "cleared to push after XXX" or are you cleared when the condition becomes valid?
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Old 02-23-2020 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Every aspect of express is a complete joke . United doesn’t care about the express operation,it’s obvious. I would suspect that most of the delays are on the express side anyway .
Why are express RJ's parking at mainline gates? The entire ramp operation the other day was a cluster-puck.

I feel that management is trying to "mix in" the RJ's into the maiinline operation in order to change our opinions about their product and to integrate their brand. The long term play is to make mainline pilots more accepting of the RJ operation and therefore more apt to accept relaxation of scope.

I do feel that we have too many RJ's cluttering up the ramp. It's a mess.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cal73
Yep can't even release to capture on the electros. Its almost as if the folks writing the flight oops manual; A. are simply looking for a way to slice a minute or two off block times & B. don't fly the line.

Bravo high fives all around.
This came up when Zullo was in scheduling Committee and Rick Muir was on negotiating committee. This concept only existed pre-merger at Continental. Management informed the union of their intentions, and the union went along with it. It also saves on 117 times, etc.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cal73
Friend of yours?

That guy deserves Time off without pay. The pilot group doesn’t deserve to be retrained for that.
not arguing any of that, he got in a sh&tstorm over it. Fact is they start to measure onetime pressure vs issues like that. In fact a FSAP won’t protect you from early brake release, it’s an intentional violation of the FOM.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hatesheavys
not arguing any of that, he got in a sh&tstorm over it. Fact is they start to measure onetime pressure vs issues like that. In fact a FSAP won’t protect you from early brake release, it’s an intentional violation of the FOM.
Is the guy who decided safety is predicated on a verbal push clearance the same guy who decided everyone needs a vest?
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Old 02-23-2020 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
In contract talks. What a perfect time for management to make it difficult/near impossible for on time statistics. It makes for some nice ammo in any lawsuit as to how pilots have been breaking status quo - just look at the statistics, your honor.

On the bus, lately it seems the best I can make up on a transcon is maybe 5 minutes by flying .as fast as possible the entire flight. I hit turbulence and have to slow down, there goes some of that time I made up. And if I get slowed down/vectors by ATC, I'll be lucky to be an on-time arrival.

Yes, they've definitely shortened the block times. But they've also increased gate and aircraft utilization rates. Arrive early and many times the gate's occupied because there are no spare gates. There's simply less slack in the system right now.

While I try to make sure I'm on time all of the time, I'm not losing any sleep over our performance numbers. All of that is well beyond my pay grade.
Dispatch doesn't give us add fuel to help make up for delays that aren't baked into the cake. We gotta fly fast to overcome some silly ramp issue or some silly computer program that holds the flight. of course the flights are gonna be late. But I am not dropping the hammer down if I ain't got the gas to do it.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hatesheavys
It’s a direct result of damaged airplanes, I know a guy that released early and rolled back, broke an aoa or pitot tube off, took AC out of service in an outstation. A few incidents like that I get why it’s in the FOM now.
How would calling for, and getting push clearance have prevented this?

If the ground handlers are in position and say a/c clear, they’re ready for brake release and capture, the current wording in the FOM is nothing more than a self imposed limitation in on time performance.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
How would calling for, and getting push clearance have prevented this?

If the ground handlers are in position and say a/c clear, they’re ready for brake release and capture, the current wording in the FOM is nothing more than a self imposed limitation in on time performance.

This policy was instituted during bankruptcy. Time was money during those days. Now, time is perception.
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Old 02-23-2020 | 08:38 PM
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Why do you care about on time?

The only thing starting the flight clock/releasing brakes early does is Possibly add a few minutes of pay time. The airplane still won’t move until everything is clear, the cabin ready and you have received push clearance.

The whole “on time” issue could be resolved by changing a number of policies and schedule planning. However, you and I fly airplanes and not these areas, so as long as I’m ready with all preflight duties completed on time it’s their fault.
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Old 02-24-2020 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Why are express RJ's parking at mainline gates?
HOW DARE THEY!

Originally Posted by baseball
I feel that management is trying to "mix in" the RJ's into the maiinline operation in order to change our opinions about their product and to integrate their brand. The long term play is to make mainline pilots more accepting of the RJ operation and therefore more apt to accept relaxation of scope.
That's some serious conspiracy theory thinking there....of course it doesn't mean it's wrong...

Originally Posted by baseball
I do feel that we have too many RJ's cluttering up the ramp. It's a mess.
Take that flying back to mainline!

Now, where'd I park that RJ.....
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