UAL On-Time last among legacy carriers
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Gotta love those conditional push clearances to get you going. Are you really cleared to push as soon as he says "cleared to push after XXX" or are you cleared when the condition becomes valid?
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I feel that management is trying to "mix in" the RJ's into the maiinline operation in order to change our opinions about their product and to integrate their brand. The long term play is to make mainline pilots more accepting of the RJ operation and therefore more apt to accept relaxation of scope.
I do feel that we have too many RJ's cluttering up the ramp. It's a mess.
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This came up when Zullo was in scheduling Committee and Rick Muir was on negotiating committee. This concept only existed pre-merger at Continental. Management informed the union of their intentions, and the union went along with it. It also saves on 117 times, etc.
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not arguing any of that, he got in a sh&tstorm over it. Fact is they start to measure onetime pressure vs issues like that. In fact a FSAP won’t protect you from early brake release, it’s an intentional violation of the FOM.
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Is the guy who decided safety is predicated on a verbal push clearance the same guy who decided everyone needs a vest?
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In contract talks. What a perfect time for management to make it difficult/near impossible for on time statistics. It makes for some nice ammo in any lawsuit as to how pilots have been breaking status quo - just look at the statistics, your honor.
On the bus, lately it seems the best I can make up on a transcon is maybe 5 minutes by flying .as fast as possible the entire flight. I hit turbulence and have to slow down, there goes some of that time I made up. And if I get slowed down/vectors by ATC, I'll be lucky to be an on-time arrival.
Yes, they've definitely shortened the block times. But they've also increased gate and aircraft utilization rates. Arrive early and many times the gate's occupied because there are no spare gates. There's simply less slack in the system right now.
While I try to make sure I'm on time all of the time, I'm not losing any sleep over our performance numbers. All of that is well beyond my pay grade.
On the bus, lately it seems the best I can make up on a transcon is maybe 5 minutes by flying .as fast as possible the entire flight. I hit turbulence and have to slow down, there goes some of that time I made up. And if I get slowed down/vectors by ATC, I'll be lucky to be an on-time arrival.
Yes, they've definitely shortened the block times. But they've also increased gate and aircraft utilization rates. Arrive early and many times the gate's occupied because there are no spare gates. There's simply less slack in the system right now.
While I try to make sure I'm on time all of the time, I'm not losing any sleep over our performance numbers. All of that is well beyond my pay grade.
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If the ground handlers are in position and say a/c clear, they’re ready for brake release and capture, the current wording in the FOM is nothing more than a self imposed limitation in on time performance.
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How would calling for, and getting push clearance have prevented this?
If the ground handlers are in position and say a/c clear, they’re ready for brake release and capture, the current wording in the FOM is nothing more than a self imposed limitation in on time performance.
If the ground handlers are in position and say a/c clear, they’re ready for brake release and capture, the current wording in the FOM is nothing more than a self imposed limitation in on time performance.
This policy was instituted during bankruptcy. Time was money during those days. Now, time is perception.
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Why do you care about on time?
The only thing starting the flight clock/releasing brakes early does is Possibly add a few minutes of pay time. The airplane still won’t move until everything is clear, the cabin ready and you have received push clearance.
The whole “on time” issue could be resolved by changing a number of policies and schedule planning. However, you and I fly airplanes and not these areas, so as long as I’m ready with all preflight duties completed on time it’s their fault.
The only thing starting the flight clock/releasing brakes early does is Possibly add a few minutes of pay time. The airplane still won’t move until everything is clear, the cabin ready and you have received push clearance.
The whole “on time” issue could be resolved by changing a number of policies and schedule planning. However, you and I fly airplanes and not these areas, so as long as I’m ready with all preflight duties completed on time it’s their fault.
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HOW DARE THEY!
That's some serious conspiracy theory thinking there....of course it doesn't mean it's wrong...
Take that flying back to mainline!
Now, where'd I park that RJ.....
I feel that management is trying to "mix in" the RJ's into the maiinline operation in order to change our opinions about their product and to integrate their brand. The long term play is to make mainline pilots more accepting of the RJ operation and therefore more apt to accept relaxation of scope.
Now, where'd I park that RJ.....
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