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Originally Posted by RickGassko
(Post 2983060)
Shuffling the deck
TSA shutting down. TSA 145s to XJT. XJT 175s to OO. That will bring the total CRJ-550 fleet up to 99. I'd mentioned late last year on the Fleet Discussion thread that there were potentially 100-130 CRJ-700s out there that we could get our hands on. Skywest alone had nearly 100 of those -700s that I'd counted. Now management has found a way to start getting at some of them. Because the 700s are newer frames than CRJ-200s, the death of the 50 seater is still some ways off. |
Originally Posted by TFAYD
(Post 2983269)
yup - you could read it between the lines for a while. And this P2P stuff is all about testing the water.
maybe it’s time to speak our mind at one of those P2P sessions. |
is the P2P group the "sales pitch" sales force for the MEC?
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 2983464)
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So you have 10 more years of the wurst passenger plane ever built . Maint delays and cx will only get worse as these old tired things near their end . United is in love with the rj and they would bring on 150 more if they could . This passion they have for the rj will eventually catch up to them and bite them in the rear. I hate to say it but the mgmt at United isn’t forward thinking at all . |
Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 2983465)
.10 year deal and Worst
typo
Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 2983697)
I think you are absolutely correct, having each regional try to cut each others’ throats to keep contracts is precisely why the fifty seat jet fleet is in such disgusting disrepair.
Yet during the bankruptcies, and after, it was a fact ours (and other legacy management) was 100% perfectly content with. I said/posted it elsewhere, Gordon’s premise has yet to STILL see fruition. 145 is simply less crappy to ride in than a -200. Depending on operator, not as frequently weight restricted, etc. Sadly, the mechanisms in place that kept the COEX/XJT 145 operating so well fell by the wayside over a decade ago under Jeffrey. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2983800)
I said/posted it elsewhere, Gordon’s premise has yet to STILL see fruition.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2983880)
While I agree with the sentiment of his statement....I fail to see why people revere the guy. Everyone in the IAH area talks about him like he was their best friend.....while he exploited them.
He had a ready made advantage when he took over and was smart enough to hire Brenneman to be the brains to make sure he didn’t **** away his advantage. |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2983880)
While I agree with the sentiment of his statement....I fail to see why people revere the guy. Everyone in the IAH area talks about him like he was their best friend.....while he exploited them.
But I'm not revering him, AT ALL.
Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 2983888)
He lined his pockets, like every other CEO. The one thing he DID understand was if the grunts on the front line are not happy, your business will be ***t, something almost NO CEO will ever acknowledge by anything more than lip service.
He had a ready made advantage when he took over and was smart enough to hire Brenneman to be the brains to make sure he didn’t **** away his advantage. Much like a politician can play to people and have themselves revered, yet exploit them at the same time, etc. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2983800)
Its been proven, a 10 year (or any other “longer” duration) deal doesn’t me squat. Will be renegotiated/terminated before than anyway. Plus the devils in the details regarding the terms/conditions of deal. Usually a very one way street, in favor of the customer, THE LEGACY.
Agreed. Yet during the bankruptcies, and after, it was a fact ours (and other legacy management) was 100% perfectly content with. I said/posted it elsewhere, Gordon’s premise has yet to STILL see fruition. 145 is simply less crappy to ride in than a -200. Depending on operator, not as frequently weight restricted, etc. Sadly, the mechanisms in place that kept the COEX/XJT 145 operating so well fell by the wayside over a decade ago under Jeffrey. Gordon said "check mate." when merger announced. But, too many other factors have occurred to have his vision come through. More and more consolidation. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2984053)
Gordon's main premise was "achieve a labor cost advantage." Fact: Gordon never made money unless his pilots worked for 30% less than competitors. Gordon ran a sweat shop.
Gordon said "check mate." when merger announced. But, too many other factors have occurred to have his vision come through. More and more consolidation. As mentioned, not revering the guy. Just saying, he knew how to play the cards. Do you disagree with the pizza analogy? |
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