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flightmedic01 02-24-2020 12:59 PM

20 more E-175s with SKywest???
 
https://simpleflying.com/united-skywest-e175-contract/

So which ones are being parked to comply with the scope limitations???

crflyer 02-24-2020 01:04 PM

Says right in the article that they’re being sourced from another Express carrier. United is removing all 25 175s from the ExpressJet fleet (to SkyWest) as Trans States winds down their operation and transfers their 145s to ExpressJet.

RickGassko 02-24-2020 01:05 PM

Shuffling the deck
TSA shutting down.
TSA 145s to XJT.
XJT 175s to OO.

Vernon Demerest 02-24-2020 01:11 PM

This seems to be in line with what Kirby has been saying about our Express network(dwindling the high number of carriers down to a handful that are more reliable and controllable). I see a merger of Commutair and ExpressJet at some point and continued phase out of Republic bringing our number of UE carriers to around 4 before settling in at two or three longer term (one owned and one or possibly two independent). I kinda threw up in my mouth a little hearing that SkyWest was the beneficiary of XJT’s 25 ERJ-175s. XJT did a great job bringing this fleet online. I hope the best for the pilots of both Trans States and ExpressJet.

John Carr 02-24-2020 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 2983059)
Says right in the article that they’re being sourced from another Express carrier. United is removing all 25 175s from the ExpressJet fleet (to SkyWest) as Trans States winds down their operation and transfers their 145s back to ExpressJet.

Added, for accuracy. Along with a DEN base, apparently. Of which, when those planes where handed from XJT to TSA, XJT shut down the DEN base.


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 2983068)
I see a merger of Commutair and ExpressJet at some point and continued phase out of Republic bringing our number of UE carriers to around 4 before settling in at two or three longer term (one owned and one or possibly two independent). I kinda threw up in my mouth a little hearing that SkyWest was the beneficiary of XJT’s 25 ERJ-175s. XJT did a great job bringing this fleet online. I hope the best for the pilots of both Trans States and ExpressJet.

Was discussed elsewhere. Not like anything makes sense with regards to the regionals, but it seems like a merge with Commutair woul have happened when XJT was brought into the ManaAir fold. But who knows?

It's still a net gain in airframes for XJT. It'll be interesting to see how they staff it, unless the probable scenario of brining pilots over from TSA in some kind of "soft landings" scheme like SKW had/has, etc.

UASCOMPILOT 02-24-2020 01:50 PM

If you read each company's announcement it sounds like scope has been settled. No new SNB is my guess because their retrofitting the 145's with new cabins, entertainment etc...consolidating all 175 flying and so forth.

SquawkIdent 02-24-2020 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2983100)
If you read each company's announcement it sounds like scope has been settled. No new SNB is my guess because their retrofitting the 145's with new cabins, entertainment etc...consolidating all 175 flying and so forth.

Yup. Buddies who have talked to the p2p guys lately say the word is that scope is basically settled. Consolidate the 76 seat flying into one company (and maybe another for the 50 seat flying) , feed it from the Aviate program, and have flow-up/flow-down. 76 limits tied to NSNB gone, replaced with 76 seaters in a ratio to mainline narrowbodies and WB scope protections. This sounds like putting the pieces in place for that. Disappointed to say the least. I definitely feel for the XJT and TSA guys who are getting the shaft while the shells are being moved around.

TFAYD 02-24-2020 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by SquawkIdent (Post 2983163)
Yup. Buddies who have talked to the p2p guys lately say the word is that scope is basically settled. Consolidate the 76 seat flying into one company (and maybe another for the 50 seat flying) , feed it from the Aviate program, and have flow-up/flow-down. 76 limits tied to NSNB gone, replaced with 76 seaters in a ratio to mainline narrowbodies and WB scope protections. This sounds like putting the pieces in place for that. Disappointed to say the least. I definitely feel for the XJT and TSA guys who are getting the shaft while the shells are being moved around.

not unexpected but disappointing nevertheless.

i wonder how they will sell that relaxation of scope.

SquawkIdent 02-24-2020 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 2983226)
i wonder how they will sell that relaxation of scope.

What we would call "relaxation" is being called "improvement" now that the whisper sales job has started.

doober 02-24-2020 05:02 PM

This is what "scope relaxation" will look like;



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