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It will be every interesting to hear the start date of the first class for new-hire mainline pilots.

Inquiring minds (of people in the pool) want to know!

Has United officially said anything about what their overall plan going forward since they are so internationally dependent?

The official plan at United Airlines is like a horoscope, it’s extremely vague and you can read anything you want into it. We haven’t retired fleets or furloughed, so we will be in position to either drag this out or to keep up with the recovery. We have aircraft on order that can be growth, or replacements of older aircraft in the fleet. Don’t put too much faith in any “official plan”. We once had a overall plan to get a bunch of 737’s, phase out some regional flying, and grow the seniority list to over 16,000 pilots. The A350 has been kicked down the road so many times that most don’t expect to ever see it. The A321XLR could be delivered, or kicked down the road as well. We did just have a vacancy that put many displaced pilots back in their previous seats, so at least that is movement in the right direction. Everything depends on both domestic and international markets lifting their COVID restrictions and mask mandates, but right now the schedule is a shell of what it was. Long story short is that the only plan that we can count on is in a vacancy or displacement bid, the rest is just rumors.

Early outs here were a little over 800...I can’t recall the exact number.

EWR756FO has 90+ reserves not flying daily.

The people that know anything are under strict NDAs and everything else is just a wild ass guess. The crazier your guess the more traction it gains because we're gullible and dumb. One hand doesn't talk to the other because some meatball will leak our fleet/route plan to the media or put who our largest corporate client is by dollars on a flag in ops. That has all happened in the past two years so now we sit here cutting with safety scissors and eating glue. Welcome to the party! Try the elmers.

“The people that know anything” don’t actually know anything. Without a full reopening of global travel to Americans, we’ll never be anywhere near 91% of 2019 levels. I’m talking ALL global markets- EU, Asia, Latin America, etc. NO ONE knows when that will be. I think a lot of forecasters are hoping that will happen in the summer/fall timeframe. That’s not impossible, but it is VERY optimistic. In either case, it’s dependent on dozens of major geopolitical decisions that haven’t been made yet. Plan for the worst & hope the feds keep rounding out the payroll...

I agree with you 100%. Way too many variables. I don't think the feds are going to be as willing with us buying airplanes, delta giving bonuses to management, and spirit frontier etc hiring.

I would expect travel restrictions to certain regions to remain in place through 2022. Maybe even 2023. The US, western Europe, Canada, Australia, and S. America will bounce back the quickest. Much of Asia. Africa, the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Central America will take time.

That’s sort of the million dollar question for the legacies. When will business travel and international travel begin to recover? best guess is we’ll begin to see a recovery in business travel by the spring of 2022. International travel to Europe about the same time. Rest of the world? Who knows at this point...