Trade Work
 

All,

Trying not to get caught up in this whole mess with regards to the what if’s.

I am very low on the list and have to assume that if the company makes cuts I will be part of it.

With that, can anyone lend any credible insight into trade fields etc that I could try to join at an apprentice level that will get my family by?

Trades are already laying off...

Check out CNC Machinist.

They couldn’t find enough people to fill the positions that were available. Guys right out of the program were making $25 to $30/hour.

Some junior colleges offer certification in this trade or you could look for quick accelerated private programs (along the likes of “schools” you see advertising on local channels in the mornings)

Also, an apprentice electrician would be a good one. Also in high demand.

Caveat is all of this was before the covid19 outbreak; so, I don’t know how the demand in this field will be affected.

With that being said, I have a feeling some manufacturing may be coming back to the US because we as a country are finally realizing it is not in our best national interest to outsource tons of manufacturing.

That is why I suggest CNC machinist.

And if it comes to a furlough and if you live in So. Cal by any chance , PM me and I will reach out to friends that have CNC machine shops in the area to inquire about work.

I have a feeling plumbers will be in great demand as the TP shortage escalates and “things other than TP” get used and flushed in a pinch...

I'd expect a strong demand for morticians soon.

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Think cinema. Lighting. And Hamster Style.

Funny, but true!

agreed. USA alone expected 10 million deaths over 2 years.

Your all F’ing losers. Forget I asked. Like I said. Constructive.

"You're"...J/K, seriously though. There are a metric ton of computer jobs. Work from home, "telecommute", etc. Many of which you can earn "certificates" and learn to do online. Might be a decent place to start. Telecommuting companies like Zoom, are blowing up right now...FWIW

stunt kock!

We're all "F'ing losers"?

Dude, you're (or your if you prefer) an aviator. Maybe you should grow a set and some thicker skin while you're at it. Almost ALL of us are looking down the barrel of a gun right now. You're (your) not alone. Levity is wonderful at stress reduction, especially when offered up among those with shared sacrifice. Look how many guys responded with it? If you're (your) looking for guidance from a bunch of guys who only know how to fly airplanes and where the best happy hours are you may want to widen your aperture a bit. Bullschitt and beers are what we do best. Don't be that guy that none of us wants to fly a 4 day with.

If you're YOUNG, this will likely just be a mild speedbump. Hell, you may even wind up with an ancillary career and or side business.

Welders make good money and are in demand, always.

Good luck to you and to all of us.

I was gonna help.
Now I shall not.

That made me laugh. Thank you.

Guys, I apologize. I lost my s$?t earlier. Its been a rough 24 hours personally. I apologize, seriously. My grammar demonstrated I probably should have just pressed the “OFF” button on my phone. I feel for everyone and want no more for this to end for everyone with the least amount of pain.

Once again, my apologies.

I personally am opening a CBD dispensary/pipe shop. Big demand currently.

Take a 30 day SRL and you’re gold. Plenty of time for some market research.

If you're willing to work in healthcare and you and your family get the virus and then get immunity, as unattractive as it might sound, take a 4-5 week medical assistant/certified nursing assistant course.

I can promise you that virtually everyone with any useful healthcare training/credential will have jobs no matter what happens because hospitals, FEMA, etc., are going to need people with even basic skills to be able to take metrics (pulse, BP, temperature, UA, etc). Nursing takes too long to get trained and unless you're already an electrician, skilled trades like that also take years including an apprenticeship before you're even at the journeyman level.

Nursing aids get a month or two of training and in the coming weeks they will be more in demand than a lot of other healthcare trades like dentists and optometrists because of the strain in nurses right now. You want a skill that is easily transferable, fast to learn and just about universal in the USA, do this. You won't be making six figures but it will be a steady job guaranteed.

Looks like there are plenty of CNA job offers in my area for $10.50 to $12 per hour, just like other unskilled work.

The global economy is over my friend. I would be happy working at a grocery store in 3 months.

Check out trucking. That’s my plan. My schedule ends April 30th at my current job. Some guys may laugh but my dad is a truck driver for a well known grocery store in the Southeast pulling in just shy of 100k per year, and he’s home every night. YMMV, some trucking gigs are better than others. It ain’t flying... but at least it’s sort of similar in the way that it’s not a monotonous 9-5 office job. My advice would be to self fund your truck driving school. You can get the training for free if you commit to a company, but you don’t want to end up with a contract, especially if you get called back sooner than you think. Training footprint is about 4-5 weeks. Cost is anywhere between 5-7k depending on location.

EDIT: I should add that he’s the busiest right now in this mess than he’s ever been. That includes holidays.

Firefly,

Sorry for the stress that comes with even having to think about getting furloughed; job security needs to stay our number one priority in every contract.

My experience was that the furlough transition was more challenging than the new jobs I ended up at. I am one of those people that enjoys running; I find it interesting that running in the rain is hard for me to start out, but actually much easier once I am doing it. Furlough was the same.

IF our company does furlough, the employment opportunities will likely vary depending on the economic circumstances. The COVID-19 responses will likely impact opportunities in many other careers as well in both the positive and negative directions.

That being said, I would try getting a group together to share potential career ideas and start building networks. Also knowing people who are willing to help is often just as important as having employment skills. Network with coworkers, family and friends.

It might be worth starting a new thread asking every furloughed pilot to share what they did, and if they have any helpful advice that they consider important.

Here are just a few ideas that come to mind:

Depending on which state you live in teaching might be worth looking at. The schools often have a hard time getting substitute teachers to fill in, and filling in at a district you might be interested in is a great way to network into a solid teaching job. A teaching credential is often not required for subs or interim teachers. The pay is not so impressive, and the job not glamorous, but it can be personally rewarding and provide solid benefits and family friendly schedule.

If you are interested in law enforcement, many of our pilots found employment on police forces or as a deputy. Correctional Officers pay well in my state and have excellent benefits.

I know some pilots worked in Pharmaceutical sales and some that helped operate and run assisted living care homes.

Healthcare will likely boom, and even a short phlebotomists course might land a entry level job in a hospital lab with opportunities to move up.

Some furloughed pilots took jobs in other modes of transportation including trains and trucking.

A hobby or interest might provide a potential venue to find employment in retail or services in that area.

If furloughs do come our way, the best thing is to take care of your family first, stay positive, and network. The help I received from my fellow furloughed pilots made a HUGE difference in everything from unemployment benefits to getting hired at a company that one worked for. Network.

None of us are immune to the potential of hitting the reset button, and it is always a good idea to think about what you might do just in case it does happen.

I hope we all prepare for this possibility, but find that we did not need to,

SP

Very well said!

I found that networking was the key to finding other employment during my 10 years (combined) of furlough. It also helped just being able to bounce ideas off one another with people in the same situation. Stay positive as much as feasible because it really does help.

I hate to tell you buddy if you know absolutely nothing but flying your screwed! Shame on you! I worked in the trades since I was 12. I'll survive with or without this job theres no time to learn something and save your situation! Plus no schools are open...and I never hired someone from a trade school and I've hired allot of people. That industry is learn on the job and you start out at min wage and work your way up, trade school or not!

Don’t be so quick on the trigger to blame. Maybe shame on his parents, who knows? He might be part of the “participation trophy” generation .

Anybody can do manual labor. Start simple with a lawnmower and trimmer. A friend dropped out to college to do that. He is worth many times what I am now, and has a great business work schedule.

Well i have committed to selling one of every part i have two of. :)

I’d keep both eyes personally, otherwise a great idea.

I might give up one kidney, but I kind of want to keep both arms and both legs. Call me selfish and stupid. Since childhood I have grown rather attached to them.

Please clean up the coffee (or beer, as appropriate) that you just blew out your nose.

All the Riddle rats are going to learn the hard way...a degree in Aeronautical Science?? Pfffffft

Piloting is a trade. Just like electricians, plumbers, contractors etc.

I hate to tell you buddy, but it seems as though you failed high school English. Shame on you!

Hey, since he's so schooled in the trades, maybe he's better at Spanish :D

which brings this back to corona.

Well played sir, well played.

I'm either going for car mechanic, or electrician....

Started my career in aviation bucking rivits in wings. Headed for Victorville as an aluminum recycler.

It might not be the six figure job you had in mind, but it's not unskilled work in the same way that some temp jobs and other minimum wage jobs might be. Being a CNA, phlebotomist, etc., requires specific training, and the difference between a CNA and a job at the temp agency is that most CNA's I know get health insurance and there are CNA jobs at literally every hospital in the USA right now so it's very transferable.

Actually, Not really, I'm a licensed funeral director in a few states and have been keeping an eye on the job boards... surprisingly there isn't much out there.

Bump........

One year and you can be a certified welder. There’s a shortage right now.