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Originally Posted by BMEP100
(Post 3043481)
ya think
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Originally Posted by CLazarus
(Post 3043552)
Took a gander at the international cuts we've already announced for the entire summer of 2020. Most of those cuts affected the 756 fleet out of EWR, some at IAD/IAH as well. Flying that is probably not going to come back before next summer. Hope the NPDM just reflects this modest initial shrinkage.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 3043540)
the last couple that came out were the opening of the DEN 787 base and the closing of ORD 777. If I remember right within the next couple days there was a crew resource update.
this will inevitably be larger and more complicated so it may take longer......my guess is that this notice to the pilots is a formality. My bet is the SSC and crew resources already know how this is going to go down and already have an agreement in place. There is no agreement required. The Company has just started step number 1 in the process. They submitted this NPDM to the SSC as required by our contract. The SSC can now make recommendations, but the company has the final say. I only point this out because it seems, from other forums, that pilots are directing anger towards ALPA for not being forthcoming with the details. They likely just received this NPDM. |
Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 3043563)
I think Europe 756 flying is going to get hacked. Its going to be a bloodbath in EWR.
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Originally Posted by Half wing
(Post 3043497)
Roughly 1200.
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Concur with the estimates posted above. As others have also stated, I can’t imagine they would completely park the 767s as we don’t have enough 78s to fly the Europe routes out of EWR and IAD in the event recovery by next summer occurs even moderately. I’d have to go back and look at pre-covid flying, but suspect ORD may also fall in this category. 75 CONUS flying is gone for good, hence the bases MoP listed seem most logical. Most of these NPDMs were easy, open and closed with follow on action within days. This one, not so much.
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Originally Posted by 756booi
(Post 3043588)
Sorry, but i can't find NPDM 20-01 anywhere. Can some forward to me?
That said, we only know that NPDM 20-01 exists. The actual text of the NPDM has not been released so there will be "consultations" with the ALPA SSC and then the actual displacement will be released. |
Originally Posted by Charlie Buster
(Post 3043675)
Concur with the estimates posted above. As others have also stated, I can’t imagine they would completely park the 767s as we don’t have enough 78s to fly the Europe routes out of EWR and IAD in the event recovery by next summer occurs even moderately. I’d have to go back and look at pre-covid flying, but suspect ORD may also fall in this category. 75 CONUS flying is gone for good, hence the bases MoP listed seem most logical. Most of these NPDMs were easy, open and closed with follow on action within days. This one, not so much.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 3043689)
We will get to see the content of the NPDM soon enough. That will just be the tip of the iceberg, everything is dependent on market recovery.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 3043472)
Here we go........
prediction: ORD 777 closed - was scheduled to close anyway. IAH 777 closed - all routes can be served with a 787 our new ones have to go somewhere...... DEN 787 Closed - the INTL out of DEN will be the last routes to come back the big hubs need to fly first and we can’t afford to spread out the flying. CLE737 closed - No better time than now...... SFO 756 Closed LAX 756 Closed IAH 756 closed - all INTL routes will be better served with a 787. Going to be ugly.....just rip the bandaid off quick. |
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