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Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3052528)

Thats what I read in the WSJ. Didn’t actually check the ticker. Dang. 12% !!

Result of the greater fool theory. Hate to be the one holding those bonds when the music stops.

China will own all Americas jets

Kirby did take 20 work days - now unpaid away from management and admin between now and Oct 1.

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Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3050287)

According to our union, no. Go read the email that the union put out yesterday. In the FAQ section they say that the company is prevented from changing the rates of pay in the UPA. The rate of pay that you were earning prior to the law taking effect can change if you change categories due to a displacement. The devil is in the details when it comes to laws, and this statute said that rates can’t be reduced, it does not state that employee income cannot be reduced. It stinks, but it is legal. It’s kind of like the 14th amendment never intended to create anchor babies, but if a woman violates federal law by entering the country illegally and has a kid, that kid is going to be given US citizenship. It never was the intent, but it is how the law is written.

I agree with UAL97. This is clearly not what the taxpayers expected. Employees that went out and campaigned for this support to the airline are now being undermined by laywer loophole tactics and shenanigan's. It's always fun to see trick plays in little league baseball...like when the pitcher hands off the ball to the first baseman...but let's be honest there are livelihoods at stake here and we all know management is grinning and saying "gotcha".

The union sends out a memo that says is perfectly legal to do what they are doing....thanks!!! It's not what was expected though and the American public needs to know this. The union should be slamming the company for these tactics in the media.

I'm ready to sign a petition against it, hopefully the Union will lead us.

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Originally Posted by Cosmo (Post 3053092)

The union knows what is in the law, because we had guys in the room when it was being drafted. Who do you think got these employee provisions into the Cares Act? Without it, we would already have guys on the street. BACK the PAC.

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Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3053141)

Well then why are Delta, American and Southwest not playing these games?

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Originally Posted by Cosmo (Post 3053145)

Well then why are Delta, American and Southwest not playing these games?

Because we have Kirby.

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Originally Posted by Duckdude (Post 3052165)

Kirby is not the CEO yet.

It seems everything that's going on is his call. maybe not on paper, or official change of command ceremony, but rest assured it's his show. might be the gong show, but it's his. oscar is just shadowing the operation and is the public face for now.

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Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3053141)

The union knew what was in the USSERA laws too. the union will pick its battles.

We ALL are full up dues paying members. I think 6K plus a year should more than qualify for backing all the PAC's.

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Originally Posted by Cosmo (Post 3053145)

Well then why are Delta, American and Southwest not playing these games?

No idea. American is reportedly retiring the 330, 756, and E190 fleets, so there will definitely be some displacements. Maybe Delta and Southwest believe demand will come back much quicker. IDK. Kirby is either a genius or an idiot, time will tell.