ExpressJet RIP
 

United Airlines has entered into an agreement with CommutAir to be the sole operator of UAX EMB-145s and they will be terminating their contract with ExpressJet.

Sad day for our brothers and sisters #staystrong

How does an expressjet pilot remain competitive? Is flying required?

Since aviate dissolving will there be preferred hiring on rebound?

ALPA carriers give preferential interviews to distressed ALPA pilots. It will be a box you check on you app.

as a soon to be furloughed ALPA pilot, I have been trying VERY hard to get an interview with another ALPA carrier (yes, they are hiring)......and I’m met with TONS of resistance based on having recall rights with my current carrier. In fact, everywhere I’ve looked this is the case.

bring your experience up with ALPA national. I could be wrong But I think it’s in the bylaws.

I guess that’s one problem the XJT pilots won’t have when looking for jobs. 😕

No mainline carrier, or ALPA, has given a d@mn about distressed ALPA pilots (on a regional level).

There were several former Comair pilots in my new hire class at UA. Is it a perfect system no. To say it doesn’t happen is absolutely false. YMMV.

They have, maybe not recently but Air Wisconsin, hired a bunch of Independence Air guys when it went under and they also hired a bunch of Comair guys, when they were turfed out onto the street. It’s just that times have been so good for a while now, that most at the regionals haven’t been around long enough to remember

United also preferentially interviewed a lot of Westair (ALPA) guys and gals when it shut down.

That’s not true, I got a free book on interviewing for success the last time my ALPA airline went belly up.

Alaska took a bunch of Compass guys when they shut down.

And many never even made it to class.

[QUOTE=Hot Dog;3103454]And many never even made it to class if they were slated to start this year. I’m not exactly sure how many Compass folks made it through the cracks before COVID hit the fan, but I do know the class sizes at Alaska are only 7 new hires. A good few of them come from Horizon if not half. The last new higher class this year was in March. Correct me if I’m wrong but Compass went titts up in April this year. There’s no way possible Alaska would have hired anyone past March, and if they did they never even stated day one.

I personally have friends at xjt who have interviewed and are in the Aviate program. United emailed those
individuals and told them they’re still in the program and will still move over to ual when hiring resumes.

[QUOTE=Hot Dog;3103534]Just met a Compass guy let go 6 Apr and hired by Atlas 6 Apr, timing is everything. Quite a few from Compass/Trans States hired from talking to the OE Captains so there are some intermediate soft landings going on so there’s that. We’re not ALPA, but doubtful Teamsters has anything to do with it either is just a guess. Come on in, the water is fine... for now.

But credit where it's due... AS actually ran a couple classes after the travel collapse, apparently to avoid screwing guys who had resigned from previous jobs in good faith.

I’m former Compass and started at Alaska December 2019. There were a couple other Compass guys in my class. Ironically, I didn’t pass the Hogan last August at UA. What started as a nightmare ended up being a blessing in disguise...

Is Alaska not furloughing ? Or sent out WARN notices yet ? �

They avoided furloughs since they had enough interest in their voluntary leave options. Surprising how that works when a company offers reasonable options.

RIGHT!! Why is that so difficult? Ares are confusing or worthless and limits of 100??? Really

That and our MEC did a fantastic job negotiating with a management team that notoriously will trip over a $20 to save a dime. Im hearing it really came down to the final hour.

I’m very happy for the AS pilots. I have friends there. However, every company is in very different situations. Alaska has little international exposure, for example.
Also, it’s not over until it’s over. And unfortunately, it’s far from over. Hopefully AS (and many others) won’t have to furlough in the end, but I’m not so sure.

In fairness, the 100 number is not a limit, it is a minimum. And the company has said they plan on granting almost all requests. So we’ll see what actually happens, but to call 100 a limit is inaccurate.

They were always welcoming and experienced crews, and I am going to miss the aft jumpseat they had on the 145's. Really sad to see employees from a respected regional out of a job, especially now.

This is correct. AS and SWA have bought themselves time by retaining staff for a domestic demand recovery. But there still has to be a recovery for next summer. I think a vaccine(s) is pretty much needed for that to happen. A miracle treatment (mono-clonal antibodies?) would probably help, but I think the public would just prefer to be confidant that they're not going to get covid in the first place.

Aviate isn’t dissolving

if anything they’re doubling down. There was a zoom presentation they did the other day expecting (and I’m paraphrasing here), on the other side of this plandemic they expect the largest hiring wave in the history of the industry.

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"Stay on the hook for pennies, Heaven is just around the corner" :rolleyes:

Nevermind that the airlines have parked thousands of airplanes permanently and have no money to buy more. They will be cash strapped for a decade, much like the 2000's.

Yeah ... I have been reading and hearing about the great pilot shortage since 1984 ... Every time it seems the shortage gets close something happens ...

That May be true, but demand drives business. So, if demand returns, fleets will return too to meet the demand.

We are under 30 percent of last year. It’s going to be a long slog.

If you say so Kit Darby.....

yeah! Behold the great post-pandemic pilot shortage. It’ll be epic 😕. Hey guys and gals, beware of scams from the same companies that specialized in getting you prepped for those legacy interviews. Their new thing now is polishing your LinkedIn page, if you have one. Nothing against businesses making money but when I see thousands of my fellow pilots on the street and vulnerable it just rubs me the wrong way to see these vultures lying in wait. If you are offended by my statement then you are probably one of them. Best of luck to all my XJ peeps..

LOL ... Probably is.

Sad to hear this. Taking advantage of desperate people surely has a special place in hades.

Sadly, yes.
They enjoyed the last few years of riding the monetary tidal wave on the backs of aspiring pilots and then all of a sudden, as if overnight, their relevance dissolved into nothing. At times they were even allowed to partner up with the airlines HR....but that's another thread. I will not call any by name but you'll recognize the scam as soon as you see it. Furloughed? Call us! We can help you with your new resume -as if to suggest a much deeper understanding of the new market trends via LinkedIn. Bunch of &^%&. Tell you what... If I'm getting furloughed, which I'm intimately familiar with, they'd never be on my list of things to do.

Yep.....it’s a very “venomous” thing to do.

😏

Set and checked.

I call BS. Offering services to people who need them is a good way to make happy customers and money. Not sure how anyone is being taken advantage of. Last i heard this was a free country.

If some "vulture" helps me interview and get a job at Amazon because my linked in and resume needed a little polishing, I think it will be money well spent.