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Spartacusbob 01-06-2023 10:09 AM

Does this action have the possibility of unintentionally freezing FO’s transitioning to CA?

It’s clear there is real leverage CA’s have, will folks intentionally hold their bid to CA until the contract is written?

It’s what I’d do, but I can’t speak for everyone, let alone anyone.

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-06-2023 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by PK387 (Post 3566103)
It's pretty incredible... hiring 200 guys a month but still offering COLAs because we're overstaffed? I think the obvious implication is too many FOs and not enough CAs, which should be yet another sign of extraordinary leverage as we try to close out this contract.

Exactly what I was thinking

JTwift 01-06-2023 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3566134)
Exactly what I was thinking

this cola thing is weird. They’re saying DCA 73 is over staffed, but they’re going to give IAH FOs 90 hour lines? No balancing involved here?

dailyops 01-06-2023 10:18 AM

Airlines have always staffed for the summer and been fat through the winter and early spring. What's the issue with allowing people to take time off if they want to?

They also mentioned they were going to offer COLA again over the last few months so I'm not sure where the shock is coming from.

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-06-2023 10:28 AM

This is probably the new normal for a while. The company wants to hoard pilots for later. They can't afford to stop hiring, so they offer a COLA so people volunteer to leave the payroll until the summer. Rinse and repeat, I bet

ThumbsUp 01-06-2023 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3566144)
This is probably the new normal for a while. The company wants to hoard pilots for later. They can't afford to stop hiring, so they offer a COLA so people volunteer to leave the payroll until the summer. Rinse and repeat, I bet

They used to be a pretty normal occurrence in the slow months. Not a bad deal if you don’t use United medical or care about vacation accrual, but for the newer hires considering it, make sure you understand what you’re going to be paying for under a full month COLA by referencing 12-J of the UPA.

JoePatroni 01-06-2023 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3566122)
Yupe..
you also have to wonder what the backlog in training is like. At some point, are individuals bringing in revenue for the company?

Just wonder how many takers they will get? Sit reserve at home and not fly (or minimum) and take home 73 hours of pay., or do a COLA and bring home nothing BUT not have to worry about scheduling and our reserve rules.
If they can offer COLA’s while still hiring, why not let pilots drop trips (lineholder) or reserve days?

Crazy F’ing times.. lol
Motch

Not sure about the narrow body scene but the wide body backlog is almost back to normal for the most part.

Spartacusbob 01-06-2023 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3566278)
Not sure about the narrow body scene but the wide body backlog is almost back to normal for the most part.

No appreciable backlog on NB

But seriously 01-06-2023 05:41 PM

It seems to me that being over staffed right now is in-line with the stated plan. If they want to take delivery of a plane every three days, they can’t exactly start off lean on staffing. They’d never catch up.

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-06-2023 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3566362)
but seriously, It seems to me that being over staffed right now is in-line with the stated plan. If they want to take delivery of a plane every three days, they can’t exactly start off lean on staffing. They’d never catch up.

Fixed it for you


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