I agree with your contractual reading. But based on the history of this place we know that’s never going to happen.

Zero/low block hours for regionals while hopefully mainline is recovering? They’ll come up with some lame LOA to address this and call it a victory for pilots.

Oh I understand it. And even with the 12 month look back, UAX block hours won't be anywhere close to zero. Maybe you read it wrong. The provision does give us some leverage. But not nearly as much as you're trying to say.

Y’all better order some more wheelchairs

Aint that the truth. Last time in FMY it took 45 minutes to get them all off the plane.

On the bright side a lot of airlines have made money in Florida ... Eastern ... National ... then Pan Am ... Piedmont ... then Uslessair ... PBA ... ask any of those guys ... :p

I was told in one of my trips through the training center that the only two planes that could operate at a profit in FL were the 737-900, and the 757-300 because the deeply discounted vacation ticket prices didn’t cover our cost with smaller equipment. The good news is that the Max 10 will be here any day now and we’ll take over the world with an ultra efficient, modern, brilliantly designed, extremely comfortable, industry leading APU and ground cooling capability, consumer trusted, game changing aircraft.

I didn't mean zero literally but will be a fraction of what it is now. It gives us huge leverage which im sure will be used to mitigate furloughs.

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We need to accept that there isn’t going to be very much mitigating going on. We only had 500 or so take the early out. The company is probably being realistic with an outlook for 50% revenue being best case in the absence of a vaccine. Testing, distributing, and allowing time for results to be seen probably isn’t going to save the summer of 2021, considering the nonstop media coverage of the virus and the fear that is maintained. United is also more dependent on international travel than other airlines, and the uniform consensus is that market will be the last to recover. We are going to most likely furlough as fast as we can starting October 1 to get close to the 3,900 fewer bodies that they want off of the payroll. That would still leave us very fat on pilots until demand starts to recover. A much smaller United will also mean a much smaller regional fleet. Hopefully on the rebound the 50 seat jets seem less attractive to management and we can then take flying back since scope is maxed out. Not trying to be doom and gloom, but there just isn’t a demand or need for what we do. The airlines are going to get much smaller, and then recover on the other side.

I generally agree with you on this being a highly probable outlook; however, I think that we could still be surprised as to how quickly things might recover after CV. Airline fundamentals were never better than 2019, as opposed to other eras. The other unique aspect of this situation is that people have “mothballed” themselves and are waiting for a resolution. If and when that resolution starts to happen (vaccines), I wouldn’t be surprised if, in spite of the economic predictions, people came out of their hibernation in droves. These really are uncharted waters.

I think this is an accurate assessment. Definitely a different playing field this time.

I really don’t know what to expect with the recovery. The company could be shocked by how fast the recovery is, or we could be shocked at how fast they can furlough and bring people back. I’m waiting for training for the 737. I haven’t been on the thing for over 2 years and from what I can tell I only require a 12 day training footprint since I have previous time in it. On the flip side, I haven’t put on my uniform in 5 months, I’m definitely not going to get furloughed, yet they still haven’t assigned training. I’m like the sub sitting on the ocean floor in silent mode hoping the enemy can’t locate me.