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No matter what happens with the vote, it would appear that UAL-ALPA is in for a long rocky ride with many of its members.

 

First-rate melodrama in the penultimate paragraph. Oh, the humanity! Sure, this will ruin the life of every bottom 1/3 pilot who will be on reserve 9 days a month. At least we can now infer the anonymous dude who wrote this is ORD based.....

 

Someone pens a fairly comprehensive piece about the many negative aspects of a potentially career changing AIP and you pick one speck in one paragraph to blast for "melodrama"? There has been plenty of that going around in both camps.

 

Your parents named you ‘Nucflash’?

Seriously?

 

yeah, I read this (and other talking points like it) and tried to reduce it to it's logic. I will admit I was biased by the tone right from the beginning and tried to overcome it, but for me at least I hope that my knowledge of my bias helps keep the analysis ok.

My summary of their main gripe: Some groups disproportionally receive higher MPG initially than others, but are upset that they will receive disproportionally higher recovery margins in the future. They tried to dress this up as an atrocity.

There's more to it, but if this was part of an official dissent from C12 with names attached, I'd be way more inclined to summarize my thoughts. Instead it's got too much emotion and push than I want to spend my time reading. Sign your name or even your Avatar (that you've been using for years even if you don't post much).

I'll read anything logical, non-emotional, without agenda as much as possible, and respectful if it's not from the union reps and will gladly read any C-12/C-11 dissenting response. There's just too much agenda and half truths in so many posts being thrown around, and for my part.

Plus, no matter what, when you tell the junior group that it's actually good for them to be furloughed, it's like a rapist telling a girl she really enjoyed it. One part or not, I'd never read from this author again if they had decided to sign their name. They don't deserve that kind of attitude from their brothers.

 

In the final analysis, anything anyone (including me) says on an interweb forum plus a couple of bucks gets you a cup of coffee. These individuals, however, have been very careful to present their statement and website as a formal, official rebuttal to the MEC decision. “They” are presenting themselves as a wide coalition of our peers. How can we sure? Make yourselves known.

I did laugh about the ORD walkaround in the snow, yada, yada, though. Simply because I did a few of those as S/O back in the day. I guess I could have made the claim I was on a “C scale” back then?????