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biggun 10-07-2020 12:59 PM

The intent of the FPL policy is for union peeps not to be enriched over that of the line pilots. When I read the language, the intent is pretty clear.


If they should get a 45 hour line value. thats what they get. if they get a reserve line, they should be paid accordingly. reserve guarantee.


"concessions" to line pilots should be also felt within the ranks of ALPA reps.

Negotiate the deal, and work under that deal.

It's just the right thing to do.

LeeFXDWG 10-07-2020 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by biggun (Post 3141749)
The intent of the FPL policy is for union peeps not to be enriched over that of the line pilots. When I read the language, the intent is pretty clear.


If they should get a 45 hour line value. thats what they get. if they get a reserve line, they should be paid accordingly. reserve guarantee.


"concessions" to line pilots should be also felt within the ranks of ALPA reps.

Negotiate the deal, and work under that deal.

It's just the right thing to do.


Change,org is not how union business is done. The individual that started it knows way better.

Lee

Big5 10-07-2020 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3141762)
Change,org is not how union business is done. The individual that started it knows way better.

Lee

Could care less about the petition or who started it. What’s apparent is the failure that is our union. How union business WAS done is the issue.

Thor 10-07-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Big5 (Post 3141775)
How union business WAS done is the issue.

You mean that line pilots through the backstop of membership ratification failed?

That’s the story here. Come June, try finding someone that will admit they voted yes. We can argue about how the MEC did business, but line pilots screwed the pooch too.

Thor 10-07-2020 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3141762)
Change,org is not how union business is done. The individual that started it knows way better.

Lee

Who is the individual that started the petition?

Thor 10-07-2020 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by biggun (Post 3141749)
The intent of the FPL policy is for union peeps not to be enriched over that of the line pilots. When I read the language, the intent is pretty clear.


If they should get a 45 hour line value. thats what they get. if they get a reserve line, they should be paid accordingly. reserve guarantee.


"concessions" to line pilots should be also felt within the ranks of ALPA reps.

Negotiate the deal, and work under that deal.

It's just the right thing to do.

You’re suggesting they should only work 45 hours a month, or 12 hours a week? Come in Monday for a full day, then bail by noon on Tuesday?

Is that really the representation that you want right now?

When you work more than MPG that’s what you get paid. Why exactly is that different for MEC volunteers?

What you’re lobbying for is actually CREDIT CAPS which is not part of the TA. To that, I hope the majority of pilots will join me with a resounding FU.

Big5 10-07-2020 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Thor (Post 3141817)
You’re suggesting they should only work 45 hours a month, or 12 hours a week? Come in Monday for a full day, then bail by noon on Tuesday?

Is that really the representation that you want right now?

When you work more than MPG that’s what you get paid. Why exactly is that different for MEC volunteers?

What you’re lobbying for is actually CREDIT CAPS which is not part of the TA. To that, I hope the majority of pilots will join me with a resounding FU.

You bring up a good point. Perhaps the union needs caps. Maybe too much volunteering?

Help me understand the difference, are they volunteers or full time employees?

Thor 10-07-2020 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by Big5 (Post 3141905)
You bring up a good point. Perhaps the union needs caps. Maybe too much volunteering?

Help me understand the difference, are they volunteers or full time employees?

Utterly pathetic.

Big5 10-08-2020 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by Thor (Post 3141936)
Utterly pathetic.

Just like the TA.

Huell 10-08-2020 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Thor (Post 3141813)
Who is the individual that started the petition?

One of our lose cannon nut case 570s ... His name is on it I believe.


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