Oh Peter you poor thing. May God bless your cotton picking little heart.

58 is greater than 33.3

For all the **** the millennials get, the “what about me” generation takes the cake.

I’m not at UAL. But I am a millennial and I’m junior at my airline (hired in 2017). From the time that I got on, I’ve been busting my @$$ to save money for a recession or negotiations because I knew the game. If there isn’t flying for me, the world doesn’t owe me a thing. No hard feelings. That’s life.

The incredible thing to me is the “senior” bubbas that are funding this whole scheme. Look, Senior does not mean wealthy. It just means they were hired first.

I remember reading a thread a couple years ago about pilot compensation at the legacies. Everyone assumed all pilots make bank. Then a UAL guy hired in 2000 tells his story. Between 2000 and 2010 he averaged $19,200. If this same person averaged $175,000 from 2010 through 2020, that’s an average pay of less than $107,000 for the past 20 years. Not exactly high rolling.

Imagine this guy has three kids that were born around when he got hired. They’re probably just starting college and he’s only had ten years to save. And now I’m gonna ask him to cover his kids’ college, mortgage, retirement, and my monthly paycheck for flying that literally doesn’t exist? I’m gonna ask him to take another financial hit on top of the two furloughs already so that I don’t have to do what he did?

I’m sorry. I just don’t get it.

The bottom half of the middle third were going to take a significant pay hit anyway. If this had not ratified, there would’ve been continued significant displacement bids as well as some of them would most likely get furloughed. It would be very conceivable that a WB FO would be a NB FO on reserve and commuting to a base they don’t want to. Also, that would not change for a while. That is not fear mongering, just reality.

In addition, United would not be in position to capitalize on any opportunities that might arise.

You’re gonna get diabetes from all that kool-aid.

Not Kool-Aid, it’s math!!! Flying 37% of our schedule that we were staffed for. We are at least 60% over staffed.

LOL! You retired at the right time, my friend.
Covid moved everyone's cheese. It's humorous to watch those that villianize their coworkers for what Covid has brought.

I’m sure your financial guy will listen to your rant with a nice empty smile. Perhaps he will offer you any flavor of K Cup you can imagine. All the while he’s glad that you are paying his 2 points fee for underperforming a 60/40 Portfolio.

Grumble,

if flying demand rebounds as quickly as you think it will, PM me and I will happily buy you dinner. Seriously, if we’re above 67.5%, I’ll be back up to 70 hours. I can’t imagine a business environment where airlines keep 70% staffed while we gain 2% flying each month. At this rate we’ll be lucky to be at 60% next summer