Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > United
United getting in to urban mobility?!? >

United getting in to urban mobility?!?

Search

Notices

United getting in to urban mobility?!?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:03 AM
  #21  
duvie's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,246
Likes: 0
From: WB Bunkie
Default

Originally Posted by Broccoli Rob
I'm just wondering how they're going to ensure that someone landing in a neighborhood isn't going to land on a car or a person. Air taxis are probably an eventual reality, but I'm curious to see if they could really get this thing approved by the FAA in the next three years. You're talking about a whole new set of regulations and safety rules. Unless they put something like a heliport in the middle of a neighborhood, kind of like a park n ride lot where everyone could drive to it. I guess that'd still be better than driving to the airport. It'll be interesting to see how they pull it off of it ever gets that far.
I think the real constraint/application Will be in places that don’t actually have good straight line infrastructure from point A to point B (say the airport). In suburbs, I think the rise of self driving cars that can coordinate with all of the traffic on the road, thus allowing for average trip speeds to increase to 40 mph +, will be more realistic and efficient using our current infrastructure. But in places like Manhattan, Washington DC or San Francisco Bay area, where pieces of water prevent straight lines driving, air travel makes sense.

So, to your point, these more specialized/restricted areas will probably have dedicated VTOL ports, but I would doubt this will pop up in every little suburb.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:07 AM
  #22  
MOGuy's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: CRJ200; FO
Default

Originally Posted by Grumble
How do you think they paid for it?
☝️.......true or not it better they better make money and not lose any off this investment.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:41 AM
  #23  
Half wing's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 516
Likes: 3
From: 787 right
Default

Face meet palm. The chances of a United passenger riding on anything close to this in the next 20 years is zero. Dreams are important though. That probably is at the crux of it, mainly PR.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:45 AM
  #24  
Airhoss's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,738
Likes: 5
From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Default

Originally Posted by Half wing
Face meet palm. The chances of a United passenger riding on anything close to this in the next 20 years is zero. Dreams are important though. That probably is at the crux of it, mainly PR.
This whole thing is nothing more than virtue signaling.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:50 AM
  #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Airhoss
This whole thing is nothing more than virtue signaling.

Not sure about that. The first airline that can combine local transportation to the airport (eliminating the time and cost of getting to the airport and parking fees) with the total trip and include it in a single ticket purchase might have a huge advantage over the competition.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:55 AM
  #26  
Winston's Avatar
Squawking 2000
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 737
Likes: 0
From: Skeptical
Default

Originally Posted by Airhoss
This whole thing is nothing more than virtue signaling.
Had the same thought. Probably gives some of the more Green New Deal-promoting Members of Congress psychological cover when voting to send another $14B to an industry that by necessity involves spewing tons of carbon into the upper atmosphere.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 05:59 AM
  #27  
Airhoss's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,738
Likes: 5
From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Default

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Not sure about that. The first airline that can combine local transportation to the airport (eliminating the time and cost of getting to the airport and parking fees) with the total trip and include it in a single ticket purchase might have a huge advantage over the competition.
Didn’t Pan Am have helicopter service from large metro areas to airports back in the day?
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 06:01 AM
  #28  
Line Holder
10M Airline Miles
5 Years
100 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,375
Likes: 55
Default

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Not sure about that. The first airline that can combine local transportation to the airport (eliminating the time and cost of getting to the airport and parking fees) with the total trip and include it in a single ticket purchase might have a huge advantage over the competition.
do you think that people who can afford a helicopter to the airport are going to ride commercial? Our first class pax are largely free upgrades. A very small % actually buy the seat. Coach folks- no way. So how big is the market really going to be? After reading all the info, I’m inclined to believe the PR/virtue signaling arguments. The business side just doesn’t seem plausible, at least not for a looooooong time.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 06:05 AM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Airhoss
Didn’t Pan Am have helicopter service from large metro areas to airports back in the day?

Yes. They had rooftop heliports in NY city.
Reply
Old 02-11-2021 | 06:09 AM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
do you think that people who can afford a helicopter to the airport are going to ride commercial? Our first class pax are largely free upgrades. A very small % actually buy the seat. Coach folks- no way. So how big is the market really going to be? After reading all the info, I’m inclined to believe the PR/virtue signaling arguments. The business side just doesn’t seem plausible, at least not for a looooooong time.

It would be largely business and first classes I am sure. Not all wealthy individuals own private planes. Many don't see the need or fly enough to make the numbers work.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Gordon C
Air Wisconsin
10
06-11-2020 03:16 PM
iahflyr
United
117
02-04-2018 04:52 AM
flightmedic01
United
19
08-11-2014 12:16 PM
Freight Dog
Money Talk
20
11-08-2011 01:06 PM
Jettubby
Mergers and Acquisitions
9
05-15-2008 05:23 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices