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Advice for an aspiring United pilot
My college roommate is currently sitting at ~2000 hours as a CFII, and is waiting to hear from the couple of regionals he had CJOs from last year pre-Covid. He was just offered a position flying SIC (with a PIC type rating paid for) in a Citation X as a Part 91 operation with his current company - making around $120,000 total (CFI +Citation) and flying around 350-400 hours per year. He would continue in his role as CFI and be given some administrative duties to comprise the rest of his salary.
His long term career goal is to make it to United, and he's wondering if he needs to turn down this job and wait on the regionals to call, or if he'd set himself up better by taking the jet job. If taking the jet job, how long should he be there before attempting to move on? Any thoughts or advice? |
This sounds like the sort of Caribbean gig where you fly fast and low at night to uninhabited islands. Not that I know or anything about it personally... *quickly looks away*
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Let me offer counter advice. The majors are typically looking for 121 experience along with 121 PIC experience. Sure, few have made it without. But they’re the exception, not the rule. I offer this as someone who has the bulk of their experience in the 91/135 world.
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
(Post 3220615)
My college roommate is currently sitting at ~2000 hours as a CFII, and is waiting to hear from the couple of regionals he had CJOs from last year pre-Covid. He was just offered a position flying SIC (with a PIC type rating paid for) in a Citation X as a Part 91 operation - making around $120,000 and flying around 350-400 hours per year. His long term career goal is to make it to United, and he's wondering if he needs to turn down this job and wait on the regionals to call, or if he'd set himself up better by taking the jet job. If taking the jet job, how long should he be there before attempting to move on?
Any thoughts or advice? If United is the end goal, definitely look at the regionals currently in the Aviate program: Air Wisconsin, CommutAir, Mesa and Go-Jet. These will have a pathway based off of service requirements. You apply, do the interview and wait for your FIFO (first in first out) number once you've fulfilled the time requirements. Taking the Corp job sounds awesome. The flight time will likely take longer to get to be competitive as an off the street hire, but the pay might buffer that blow a bit. But is the pay worth the possible loss of seniority due to the time to get hired? Tough questions. Long term, I'd go with that better seniority number. Long story short, it's all opinion and an educated guess. However, there is plenty of info out there to help make the decision. https://unitedaviate.com |
Originally Posted by coodrough568
(Post 3220623)
That to me sounds like one of those too good to be true type things. Someone is going to pay a pilot with minimal experience and sounds like no jet time 120k a year?
I have a few friends who got conned into offers like this... only to accept the job and the. Be told they had to work up to that pay offer... one day. Like I said just be weary. on the other hand. If it is true I’d go without hesitation. Why would you suffer for years a t a regional making 40k then hopefully upgrade to make 80k. If the SIC job pays that much, then PIC must be around 200k. If there’s room to move into that take it. I can’t believe this is an actual question. |
Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
(Post 3220615)
His long term career goal is to make it to United... Any thoughts or advice? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by coodrough568
(Post 3220633)
ok well yep. Absolutely not. And also I didn’t chime in on the factor that majors DO look HARD at 121 time. Go to a regional. He’s going to be cleaning lavs and licking stamps with this gig.
My gut says doing it for a year would be a good experience for him and may open up some opportunities down the road. But, I agree with you that there will probably be some really crummy aspects to that gig. |
Why “wait” for a regional job that may not come for some time? If this is an opportunity available right now, take it. If a better regional or other opportunity presents itself later, then you can make an informed decision then.
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