Good to hear from you Mako!!

Hey All,

Outsider looking in-Roughly when's the DOH of the most junior CA system wide?

The vacancy bid that closed in December of 21 had unfilled Captain slots in EWR,DCA,LAX, and SFO. At United you must be off probation and 500 hours to bid for Captain, so virtually anyone hired before Nov ish of 2020 would be off of probation, but some prob didn't have the 500 hours, as flying was still depressed in early 21. So, if you were hired in late 20 and actually flew, you could have held Captain on that bid. A few folks did bid it, but most at that level of seniority either weren't eligible or didn't want it.

United hired people in late 2020?

Nope. Just an example of how junior it went. Basically anyone that was hired in the last class of early 2020 (I think Feb was the last class) could hold Captain as long as they had flown enough hours by December 21

Can you tell me where to find the 500 hour requirement because I don’t think that’s correct.

Interesting. I saw the FOM requirement for 1,000 121 and not this contract reference. Thanks for the reference.

Thanks!
How many CA's & FO's are in Cleveland after the newest vacancy bid?

83/91

Filler

One of those will change I’m sure - my money is on the UPA, but at what cost…

FOM can’t change, 1000 121 time is a FAR requirement as well

I’m aware of that. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think there’s pressure on regulators to change the rule.

Not the company nor the regulators would risk such liability, that’s just my opinion tho.

Any change to the rule would likely be legislative. The current rule, due to Colgan, was part of the Airline Safety and Federal Aviation Administration Extension Act of 2010. I would expect any change would be incorporated into a new FAA reauthorization act (the current authorization is good to the end of FY2023, Sep 2023).
Congress could also decide to help alleviate any pilot shortage by increasing pilot retirement age; that would delay any need to reduce ATP requirements.

I’m curious as to what you meant regarding your post? At what cost to whom? It’s in our CBA and I don’t see an advantage for us to cave on that. So the question is what is the Company willing to pay for it? Everything in our UPA has a cost…

On the latest vacancy there was no unfilled captain slots. Furthermore, a bubble is about to burst where people hired a year ago will be over probation. We were hiring over 200 a month for a while, so doubtful unfilled will keep occurring

A recession would fix all of the company’s understaffing issues. 2023 is not looking pretty. Contract ASAP before we lose more leverage. Otherwise we are looking t late 2024 for a new CBA.

Good luck with that! Maybe an extension?






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Well, do you want a contract, or a good contract?

what is a good contract?

Perfect is the enemy of good enough.

I said nothing about a perfect contract. That doesn’t exist because it’s a negotiation. Both sides have to give things to get things. Like I said, everything in our UPA has a price associated with it.

For a good enough contract, what are you willing to concede? (Rhetorical question)

Let me guess, the company can’t afford to give us a good contract right now? You are ok with 2025 for your new contract then I guess. Because, you know, we have to be profitable right? Can’t ask a homeless guy for a hundred bucks and all that. Just what the company wants you to believe. We are about to be theta F’d because 5 percent more in 2 years won’t make up for 15% more inflation in that time period. Your mindset about this is representative of the pilot group at large though and is the reason why we won’t get a contract for years.

I think an extension would fall in the same category as another LOA. The pilots are tired of throwing away leverage left and right to help fix the company’s problems. Can we please get some chicks fishing picks soon? Hope you’re on the water right now!

Was there any LAX 787 FO on this bid?

No.

Filler......

A big chunk of them wouldn't recognize leverage if they were rear-ended by it. Another chunk would be reluctant to flex a pube, let alone any muscle to use it. So, you wait and get further behind with every paycheck. Meanwhile, since Covid showed up the Corp and 135 operators are short of qualified pilots. And as a result, their pay and benefits are going up. It's a good time to be looking for a flying job. Keep your powder dry, you'll get 'em next time! /s



Just did new water pumps and some other items. Will be on the water soon.

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OM never fails to come through~

In other news.. Vacancy Page updated on CCS...
Hmmm

Always
Motch
PS) FS, FP & FtC

Mako, glad to see your water pumps are working again!

What's new?

Please please no more LOA’s / extensions for gods sake

It sounds like that is the mindset of the union. Evidently the company was wanting to improve sim instructor/LCA compensation and improve reserve rules. The union told them to address those issues in a new contract that benefits the entire group.

Does anyone have the bid screen with number of CA & FO needed positions for this past bid? Like the ones that have been attached for 22-08 and 22-11.

All of your posts ring like a phishing scam.

if you’re a UAL pilot you can get it yourself.

You can even get it if you are a UAX pilot. It’s all on FT.