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Smooth at FL450 02-24-2022 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by cantflylist (Post 3378152)
C'Mon Smooth at FL450, guppy can't really go to 450, can it? :D
Fifi can't even do FL400 :(

my previous whip could…

nfo99 02-24-2022 06:01 AM

Pretty sure the schedule will start to thin out considerably. Careful what you wish for. Think summer travel season especially abroad is toast. Enjoy your ESLRs everyone.

Andy 02-24-2022 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by nfo99 (Post 3378180)
Pretty sure the schedule will start to thin out considerably. Careful what you wish for. Think summer travel season especially abroad is toast. Enjoy your ESLRs everyone.

I'll take the other side of that bet. First 'war' crisis you've observed?

ugleeual 02-24-2022 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3378508)
I'll take the other side of that bet. First 'war' crisis you've observed?

other than overflight issues (India, Asia, etc) this conflict won’t impact our summer flying one bit. The price of gas going up due to supply issues (Thx Uncle Joe)… that’s what might impact our recovery due to higher operations costs.

nfo99 02-25-2022 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3378508)
I'll take the other side of that bet. First 'war' crisis you've observed?

gotcha. Ccs message must have been a figment of my imagination. Save your rationalization for someone who cares. For someone who isn’t worried, you’re posting alot about it. Yacht and Private Jet must be in the shop.

Wilfortina 03-28-2022 12:48 PM

I’m a month late to this discussion, but the schedules don’t look a ton different for April either. It seems to me that this is primarily a trip efficiency/productivity problem more than a line credit value problem. At the regionals I was able to get 85 hours and 16 days off. Seems like this is related to our relatively weak daily min of 5 hours averaged across the whole trip, instead of a simple min day pay of 5 for each day. Our current rig means that to get better than a 20 hour 4 day requires working pretty hard every day.
Any other input?

Hilltopper89 03-28-2022 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3396054)
I’m a month late to this discussion, but the schedules don’t look a ton different for April either. It seems to me that this is primarily a trip efficiency/productivity problem more than a line credit value problem. At the regionals I was able to get 85 hours and 16 days off. Seems like this is related to our relatively weak daily min of 5 hours averaged across the whole trip, instead of a simple min day pay of 5 for each day. Our current rig means that to get better than a 20 hour 4 day requires working pretty hard every day.
Any other input?

When I was a commuter I used to bid credit per day to get productivity. At 50% it should be pretty easy to do. I think the 90 hr lines are from the company upping Line Production Averages to force more onto reserve. I have been an on again/off again lineholder as EWR 737 CA. At 78% even with not submitting a reserve bid and my final bid group being waive everything, award work I still got reserve in March. That’s amazing to me considering in march I was only off the g line by like 10 numbers. Back to a line in April, however.

Wilfortina 03-28-2022 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hilltopper89 (Post 3396129)
When I was a commuter I used to bid credit per day to get productivity. At 50% it should be pretty easy to do. I think the 90 hr lines are from the company upping Line Production Averages to force more onto reserve. I have been an on again/off again lineholder as EWR 737 CA. At 78% even with not submitting a reserve bid and my final bid group being waive everything, award work I still got reserve in March. That’s amazing to me considering in march I was only off the g line by like 10 numbers. Back to a line in April, however.

how much productivity were you able to average? It seems like our daily rig makes it difficult to get a lot more than 5 or 6 hrs per day

TFAYD 03-28-2022 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3396148)
how much productivity were you able to average? It seems like our daily rig makes it difficult to get a lot more than 5 or 6 hrs per day

out of curiosity- what was your daily rig at your commuter?

Hilltopper89 03-28-2022 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3396148)
how much productivity were you able to average? It seems like our daily rig makes it difficult to get a lot more than 5 or 6 hrs per day

I don’t recall. I seem to remember 18+ hr 3 days and 25+ hr 4 days. Nowadays I live in base so I like my longer layovers.


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