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Icarus39 05-04-2022 07:07 PM

Jumpseating to Guam
 
I’m trying to make it to Guam for a Scuba trip. Are the flights between Honolulu and Guam ever weight restricted either way? Seems like there are open seats, just want to make sure that the don’t leave with empty seats due to weight. Thanks

hummingbear 05-05-2022 01:06 PM

Yes, they can get weight restricted. It’s not necessarily a very frequent thing, but certainly not unheard of. I haven’t seen any company communications about recurring issues with it lately. Good luck & enjoy the diving.

Thor 05-05-2022 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3417560)
Yes, they can get weight restricted. It’s not necessarily a very frequent thing, but certainly not unheard of. I haven’t seen any company communications about recurring issues with it lately. Good luck & enjoy the diving.

The OP said jumpseat, not passride, so cockpit OMC is included in the aircraft BOW. Now, the etiquette of showing up on the FD with a boatload if scuba gear is a different story but most crews would do their best to accommodate.

Dave Fitzgerald 05-05-2022 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3417560)
Yes, they can get weight restricted. It’s not necessarily a very frequent thing, but certainly not unheard of. I haven’t seen any company communications about recurring issues with it lately. Good luck & enjoy the diving.

I've been doing Guam a lot lately. Most of the time, there are a few seats, meaning less than 10 open, out of 360, going. Not weight restricted ever going.

Coming back however is a different story. I don't know what they will do once the P&W planes come back, it used to be a 777A, restricted all the time. Now we are using the 777-300ER's. 2 times recently weight restricted due to massive amounts of cargo from HKG flights--we left people behind. My last flight was not restricted, but volumed out on cargo so we were able to take all the passengers. But we were still within 5K of Max 0 fuel wt and landing weight. The wt restrictions have been max 0 fuel weight. A jump seater is not restricted on those flights as it is included in the operating empty weight of the plane.

worstpilotever 05-06-2022 02:36 AM

A UAL jumpseater is allowed even if weight restricted. I don’t believe offline is allowed if weight restricted.

Duckdude 05-06-2022 03:40 AM

A jumpseater is not included in the empty weight. However, a United pilot jumpseating can’t be bumped because of weight. Something else will be removed - passengers or cargo. ALPA sends out emails explaining this on a fairly regular basis because so many people misunderstand it.

Airhoss 05-06-2022 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by Duckdude (Post 3417821)
A jumpseater is not included in the empty weight. However, a United pilot jumpseating can’t be bumped because of weight. Something else will be removed - passengers or cargo. ALPA sends out emails explaining this on a fairly regular basis because so many people misunderstand it.

This is 100% correct, it’s very clearly stated in the FOM.

worstpilotever 05-06-2022 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3417831)
This is 100% correct, it’s very clearly stated in the FOM.

wait….you read that? 😛

Fat Old Tired 05-06-2022 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by worstpilotever (Post 3417980)
wait….you read that? 😛

What else is there to do on a 5+ hour transcon? You're getting paid to sit there in cruise so you might as well take the manuals and QRC out to study. Do that so you don't have to study in your off time.

detpilot 05-06-2022 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired (Post 3417984)
What else is there to do on a 5+ hour transcon?

You're right... Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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