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Old 06-04-2022 | 09:49 AM
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Thanks for the Alpa link. Just completed the call to action.

big fat NO on age 68.
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Old 06-04-2022 | 11:54 AM
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I’m amazed that no one wants to take a poll to get a consensus from the pilot group on this issue. Makes me wonder a lot of things.

I’m indifferent on the issue. I don’t care what allegedly any other pilot group may or may not have as a data point. Since I’ve been here no one has asked me for any input on anything. So what’s the point then?
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Old 06-04-2022 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by E6-B
Thanks for the Alpa link. Just completed the call to action.

big fat NO on age 68.
Yes to any age guys want to fly until. Whats the problem- retire when you want.
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Old 06-04-2022 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by E6-B
Thanks for the Alpa link. Just completed the call to action.

big fat NO on age 68.
I completed it 3 times….going for 4. Hell no!
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Old 06-04-2022 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Yes to any age guys want to fly until. Whats the problem- retire when you want.
…says Bozo the pilot
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Old 06-04-2022 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Yes to any age guys want to fly until. Whats the problem- retire when you want.
we live in a seniority based system, maybe someone wants to do 3 years wide body captain then retire, they won’t be able to do that if the people above them never leave. Age is something that’s the same for everyone and creates a semi balanced field. I’m not young enough to where I will ever be top 10% at a major with 65 and that’s ok with me, pushing the age to 68 will make me work longer to get a few decent years. As it stands right now I plan to retire at an age that would put me at 30% pushing it to 68 would put me closer to %45 percent which means I will never get a decent schedule in my career. I understand the lost decade, but that decade includes everyone from that decade, no need to punish the next decade of pilots
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Old 06-04-2022 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
we live in a seniority based system, maybe someone wants to do 3 years wide body captain then retire, they won’t be able to do that if the people above them never leave. Age is something that’s the same for everyone and creates a semi balanced field. I’m not young enough to where I will ever be top 10% at a major with 65 and that’s ok with me, pushing the age to 68 will make me work longer to get a few decent years. As it stands right now I plan to retire at an age that would put me at 30% pushing it to 68 would put me closer to %45 percent which means I will never get a decent schedule in my career. I understand the lost decade, but that decade includes everyone from that decade, no need to punish the next decade of pilots

Seniority ain’t going nowhere.

On the one hand, great. That’s your choice
& one you should have. Retire when you want, chase the fleet and seat you want.

On the other hand let folks chose their exit time and style. Extending the age won’t make a difference except possibly delaying your seniority progression yet still giving your due time to earn and be in Fleet/seat if you choose. It would also give you the ability to do what you want later if your healthy and choose to.

I want chik fil A. Don’t tell me I gotta go to In N Out.

Retire when you want, quit when you want,
Stay as long as you want or can. Options. The point is if we vote on it then at least we can see everyone’s opinion.

I see the legislation on this moving whether we like it or not.

Baffling that as a union we don’t respect nor do we want to hear everyone’s opinion.
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Old 06-05-2022 | 05:14 AM
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You all are over thinking this. Once you hit 65 and want to continue flying, you only have to identify as a 55 year old. That’s how the world works these days and if you have a problem with it you are a bigot and a racist.
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Old 06-05-2022 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc8co
Guys, have everyone you know fill this out!
you don’t have to be a pilot or an Alpa member to submit this…

https://alpa.quorum.us/campaign/40701/
Thanks for the link!!! Done!!!
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Old 06-05-2022 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I have flown with pilots over 65. The people who want to get rid of the 65 age limit aren't even greedy, they just have no life outside of aviation. Even if they are still on their first wife, their family doesn't like them. They might be a jerk, or they might be a dork (the only 2 personality types that are allowed), but in either case, their family wants nothing to do with them. By this point in their life, is too late to repair those relationships. They are passed the point of getting in actual family fights. It's more of an understanding that they are not wanted. When they are around on their days off, everyone is just waiting for them to go back to work, and they know it. That's why they want to keep working. They know they need to get out of the house, but they failed to develop any hobbies.

If you identify with this problem, rather than destroying an industry so you can squeeze another 2 years out of this career, go to your local FBO and get current in small GA planes again. Not only will this get you out of the house, but odds are the student pilots will genuinely be impressed with your stories, unlike the 121 FOs who have heard it all before.
I love how people assume ridiculous scenarios regarding peoples personal lives.
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