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Minepza 06-08-2022 11:56 AM

It's called private jet flying. Get paid six figures to hangout in 5 star hotels flying to where people actually want to fly and doing a fraction of the work compared to the airlines. It's the perfect job for older guys.

Sniper66 06-08-2022 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by massgflight (Post 3435997)
This thread sucks. I’m baffled you folks don’t wanna vote to gain a (supposed) true feel for what the group wants to do regarding age limit change.

Why vote For anything then, right? I mean, isn’t that where we are going?

Why even have a TA process, review, or bickering session about what is and isn’t in our forthcoming AIP? Just let the MEC approve it.

Why have elections, because you know, other people know better.

And yes, no one knows the other pilots personal concerns, conditions, health, financial status or otherwise, nor should they, right? Or screw it, let’s just eliminate the rest of privacy now too because, someone else knows better. Pathetic.




I think we should vote to have either 68 or 60 retirement
that would be fair … don’t you think ?
Majority wins and if you are over 60 you should start packing today…
I would be packing by 2030

Cruz Clearance 06-09-2022 10:47 AM

Great idea then UPA 2022 needs a clause to limit a maximum age of 65.
Those that wish to remain flying after 65 can bring their experience and mentoring to the carriers experiencing
shortages of qualified applicants.

Sniper66 06-09-2022 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz Clearance (Post 3437330)
Great idea then UPA 2022 needs a clause to limit a maximum age of 65.
Those that wish to remain flying after 65 can bring their experience and mentoring to the carriers experiencing
shortages of qualified applicants.



United will NEVER have shortage of pilots
NEVER

ReadOnly7 06-09-2022 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz Clearance (Post 3437330)
Great idea then UPA 2022 needs a clause to limit a maximum age of 65.
Those that wish to remain flying after 65 can bring their experience and mentoring to the carriers experiencing
shortages of qualified applicants.

Ha! Enjoy the lawsuit…..

Mytime2025 06-09-2022 08:34 PM

Pilots are generally very stupid at math
 

Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3433783)
Do you really think that a letter from a pilot means jack schitt on this issue? The forces that drive this change (IF it even happens) don't give a crap about what a 64 year old pilot thinks...or what a 30 year old pilot thinks. I know it's depressing to realize that you're effectively powerless, but life makes more sense and you'll have less angst when you accept reality. IF the rule changes then each individual pilot will choose what they do - its not their fault the rule changed so why throw shade when they choose to stay?

Let's just assume they change the age to 68. Then let's just assume you can't get that medical for some reason. That extra 500k plus tax free dollars would be pretty sweet. But hey I digress pilots suck at basic math

Mytime2025 06-09-2022 08:50 PM

ALPA has never been interested in opinions
 

Originally Posted by massgflight (Post 3434969)
Seniority ain’t going nowhere.

On the one hand, great. That’s your choice
& one you should have. Retire when you want, chase the fleet and seat you want.

On the other hand let folks chose their exit time and style. Extending the age won’t make a difference except possibly delaying your seniority progression yet still giving your due time to earn and be in Fleet/seat if you choose. It would also give you the ability to do what you want later if your healthy and choose to.

I want chik fil A. Don’t tell me I gotta go to In N Out.

Retire when you want, quit when you want,
Stay as long as you want or can. Options. The point is if we vote on it then at least we can see everyone’s opinion.

I see the legislation on this moving whether we like it or not.

Baffling that as a union we don’t respect nor do we want to hear everyone’s opinion.

Want to retire at 55 do it. 60 do it , 63 do it. 65 do it. Of pushed up to 68 who cares, nobody is forced to continue to 68. It's going to happen so just suck it up and if needed collect that extra 3 yrs of LTD.

guppie 06-09-2022 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3437590)
Want to retire at 55 do it. 60 do it , 63 do it. 65 do it. Of pushed up to 68 who cares, nobody is forced to continue to 68. It's going to happen so just suck it up and if needed collect that extra 3 yrs of LTD.

ain’t happening this year. Enjoy the attrition. Movin on up like the Jeffersons

Mytime2025 06-09-2022 11:18 PM

ICAO is a non player
 

Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3432358)
Thanks bud but I’ll pass

Even if ICAO didn't raise the age ( and they will) it makes no difference. All Hawaii wide body flying and domestic would be flown by over 65 pilots. Not a bad gig flying two Maui trips per month. So ALPA is being intellectualy dishonest about a bump in age.

FliesInSoup 06-10-2022 04:35 AM

Compromise: Let those turning 65 apply to and fly for the Regionals. Bottom of the seniority list. That's where the shortage is, that's where they put fewest passengers at risk.


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