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Vernon Demerest 06-11-2022 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3438510)
If the list exists then show it don’t keep everyone in the dark. Nobody will have faith in program if there isn’t more transparency. Also the bachelors degree requirement shouldn’t be required. That’s only going to restrict more people from flowing over and deciding to go elsewhere instead of waiting for United.

Who are YOU to state that that the bachelors degree shouldn’t be required? I think there is a sizable disconnect today among applicants at all of the legacy carriers. It wasn’t long ago that someone being hired at UA/DL/AA without a bachelors degree was extremely rare. You act as if it is one’s right to get picked up at United without one. Wrong. I wish you well in your journey and hope you find a good fit for you in a career carrier.

Jptaviation 06-12-2022 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3439103)
Who are YOU to state that that the bachelors degree shouldn’t be required? I think there is a sizable disconnect today among applicants at all of the legacy carriers. It wasn’t long ago that someone being hired at UA/DL/AA without a bachelors degree was extremely rare. You act as if it is one’s right to get picked up at United without one. Wrong. I wish you well in your journey and hope you find a good fit for you in a career carrier.

Ok so you want to tell me a 7000 hour pilot with 3,500 hours turbine should be turned down for the guy that has less time less experience and a bachelors degree in culinary arts. 😂

Vernon Demerest 06-13-2022 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3439786)
Ok so you want to tell me a 7000 hour pilot with 3,500 hours turbine should be turned down for the guy that has less time less experience and a bachelors degree in culinary arts. 😂

Assuming the culinary arts degree applicant has competitive flight experience, you bet. He/she finished something that he/she knew was necessary to competitively apply to the majors and most likely a lot more interesting to spend a multi-day trip with. Luckily, for the 7,000 hour application to which you speak, there are a number of high paying options out there now so everyone wins.

Jptaviation 06-13-2022 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3439926)
Assuming the culinary arts degree applicant has competitive flight experience, you bet. He/she finished something that he/she knew was necessary to competitively apply to the majors and most likely a lot more interesting to spend a multi-day trip with. Luckily, for the 7,000 hour application to which you speak, there are a number of high paying options out there now so everyone wins.

Wow you must be completely disconnected from what’s going on in the aviation market.

AxlF16 06-13-2022 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3440009)
Wow you must be completely disconnected from what’s going on in the aviation market.

Anyone in this profession long enough to accumulate 7000 hrs/3500 turbine, and NOT a bachelors degree should be looked upon with great suspicion.

Jptaviation 06-13-2022 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3440057)
Anyone in this profession long enough to accumulate 7000 hrs/3500 turbine, and NOT a bachelors degree should be looked upon with great suspicion.

Yeah that’s why everyone has removed the bachelors requirement except for United 😂. FedEx , Delta , American just to name a few don’t require it.

Jptaviation 06-13-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3440057)
Anyone in this profession long enough to accumulate 7000 hrs/3500 turbine, and NOT a bachelors degree should be looked upon with great suspicion.

If you can prove to me a cooking or business degree will make you a better pilot I’ll believe in the Aviate program. The truth is it doesn’t at all. Real world experience will teach you all that. Do you want a guy that can make the best omelette you’ve ever had or do you want a person that can help you fly the plane while you handle the emergency. Pick one and please don’t pick on a empty stomach.

Swakid8 06-13-2022 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3440070)
If you can prove to me a cooking or business degree will make you a better pilot I’ll believe in the Aviate program. The truth is it doesn’t at all. Real world experience will teach you all that. Do you want a guy that can make the best omelette you’ve ever had or do you want a person that can help you fly the plane while you handle the emergency. Pick one and please don’t pick on a empty stomach.

Why isn’t there a option 3? Someone who can make the best omelette and help you fly the plane while you handle the emergency….

ThumbsUp 06-13-2022 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3440065)
Yeah that’s why everyone has removed the bachelors requirement except for United 😂. FedEx , Delta , American just to name a few don’t require it.


But to not get one, puts you at a great disadvantage when everyone else has one by that total time, plus perhaps a graduate degree or two.

JayAitch 06-13-2022 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jptaviation (Post 3440070)
If you can prove to me a cooking or business degree will make you a better pilot I’ll believe in the Aviate program. The truth is it doesn’t at all. Real world experience will teach you all that. Do you want a guy that can make the best omelette you’ve ever had or do you want a person that can help you fly the plane while you handle the emergency. Pick one and please don’t pick on a empty stomach.

Yes.. I want one that has critical thinking skills outside of flying the airplane so that I'm not sitting next to someone for two to eight hours who is going off about the latest conspiracy they've bought into from Qanon.


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