Relative Seniority: SWA vs. UAL
06-18-2022, 03:19 PM
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Relative Seniority: SWA vs. UAL
As a new hire with Southwest today, my relative seniority based on retirements at Southwest would be as follows...
5 Years
88%
10 Years
67%
15 Years
41%
20 Years
19%
25 Years
7%
30 Years
1%
How would seniority progression look like comparatively to a new hire at United with ~30 years remaining? I'm heavily comparing the two for seniority comparison / progression opportunity as I have CJOs with both carriers and the opportunity to live in base with both.
5 Years
88%
10 Years
67%
15 Years
41%
20 Years
19%
25 Years
7%
30 Years
1%
How would seniority progression look like comparatively to a new hire at United with ~30 years remaining? I'm heavily comparing the two for seniority comparison / progression opportunity as I have CJOs with both carriers and the opportunity to live in base with both.
06-18-2022, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
That’s according to MySeniority.com based on retirements and zero growth. Seems accurate.
At some domiciles, NB CA can be held in a year. I don’t think that’s possible at SWA.
06-18-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
That’s according to MySeniority.com based on retirements and zero growth. Seems accurate.
Why is “relative” seniority so important when the fleets aren’t relatively the same?
06-18-2022, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
As a new hire with Southwest today, my relative seniority based on retirements at Southwest would be as follows...
5 Years
88%
10 Years
67%
15 Years
41%
20 Years
19%
25 Years
7%
30 Years
1%
How would seniority progression look like comparatively to a new hire at United with ~30 years remaining? I'm heavily comparing the two for seniority comparison / progression opportunity as I have CJOs with both carriers and the opportunity to live in base with both.
5 Years
88%
10 Years
67%
15 Years
41%
20 Years
19%
25 Years
7%
30 Years
1%
How would seniority progression look like comparatively to a new hire at United with ~30 years remaining? I'm heavily comparing the two for seniority comparison / progression opportunity as I have CJOs with both carriers and the opportunity to live in base with both.
06-19-2022, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Not so sure about relative seniority but United has 500 planes on order and hiring 8,000 pilots in the next 4-5 years. Also unfilled Captain and widebody FO bids.
Why is “relative” seniority so important when the fleets aren’t relatively the same?
Why is “relative” seniority so important when the fleets aren’t relatively the same?
06-19-2022, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Not so sure about relative seniority but United has 500 planes on order and hiring 8,000 pilots in the next 4-5 years. Also unfilled Captain and widebody FO bids.
Why is “relative” seniority so important when the fleets aren’t relatively the same?
Why is “relative” seniority so important when the fleets aren’t relatively the same?
06-21-2022, 02:54 PM
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Go to United.
Relative seniority at United, even if identical to SWA, would allow you to have better overall seniority in NB seats. With retirements + growth, you'll have more options at United. SWA isn't meeting their hiring goals and it's going to slow down any planned fleet growth. Hell, they're having major problems rebuilding their pre-COVID network. Everyone is dealing with mini meltdowns, but SWA's operation is in for turbulence right now.
Relative seniority at United, even if identical to SWA, would allow you to have better overall seniority in NB seats. With retirements + growth, you'll have more options at United. SWA isn't meeting their hiring goals and it's going to slow down any planned fleet growth. Hell, they're having major problems rebuilding their pre-COVID network. Everyone is dealing with mini meltdowns, but SWA's operation is in for turbulence right now.
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