I keep seeing people quote the AA/APA deal as being valued at $2B. Anyone have a source on that?

Upfront, I don’t have an answer for your question. But those numbers are some thing I think most of us would take with a grain of salt. Whatever the real number is, it will never see the light of day. Not to mention the unintended consequences that both sides may experience once the contract is actually put in place. (look at what a gift FAR 117 was for our reserves, and yet how the scheduling desk learned how to manipulate short call and field standby to their advantage).

Additionally, the elephant in the room, is that their contract was already below that of United and certainly that of Delta. Add in the fact that management flat out to refused to implement some of the provisions that were previously negotiated, citing IT issues with merging all the work groups.

When you consider that their scope clause is already much looser than ours, United is one of the only legacies that (currently) solely employees its own pilots as Sim instructors, AA doesn't have much of a disability plan to speak of, their LCA system (or lack thereof) and numerous other holes in their contract, etc, etc. Some proud American pilots have stated they would turn down the united TA in heartbeat, but I hope they’d have a little more SA on their contract deficiencies. Our current subpar TA is better than their current contract by quite a bit.

I mean no disrespect to our AA brother and sisters, but sober judgment is needed to understand how we all take advantage of this unique situation

Funny how when the changes (pay cuts, etc.) benefit THEM, they happen immediately. When they benefit us, it takes years.

Yep, I still have the furlough letter from COVID era as a reminder. That letter came quick