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Old 09-22-2022, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF View Post
The “well it’s better than my regional” mentality is something I thought I’d left behind at the ULCC I came from
Did you fail to read the portion where I said “there is plenty to fight for in a new UPA?” If you’ve read more than that single post from me you’d find I’m hardly a sunshine and rainbows guy, but I’m not going to pretend NB mainline schedules are anything close to the ****show express was.

Don’t mistake gratitude for being out of the express dumpster fire for resignation/acceptance at some of the abysmal QOL portions of the UPA.

It is possible to not be totally miserable at work and still want to fight for improvements.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 01110011 View Post
Don’t feel bad for us.

The worst NB trip here was something you’d fight over at the regionals. The hotels are better. The equipment is better. The support is better. The trips themselves, even when they’re bad, are still better. We’re on a mainline seniority list. We can actually occasionally get a drop or a trade approved. Once you get some decent seniority you can still cherry pick good trips. Plenty of things to fight for improvements in the new UPA but if you feel bad for the newbies you have no clue how bad things got at express.
Glad to have you here and glad that even though the grass is greener than where you came from you can recognize that it’s far from perfect here. It’ll get better when the Toddlers are gone in a few months and hopefully we can start acting like a union again and put some pressure on management to get us a contract worthy of a yes vote.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni View Post
You have no idea how refreshing it is to have guys like you here.
Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Glad to have you here and glad that even though the grass is greener than where you came from you can recognize that it’s far from perfect here. It’ll get better when the Toddlers are gone in a few months and hopefully we can start acting like a union again and put some pressure on management to get us a contract worthy of a yes vote.
Thanks for the welcome, one of the best parts of being here is the people I’m flying with. Appreciate the work and sacrifice of the pilots that have been here long before I was.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:41 PM
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Pay is the problem period
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR View Post
Pay is the problem period
Most disagree.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:52 PM
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Beauty of this job is choice… right now anyway with the growth and retirements. WB FO vs NB CA has always been a split in the road… some like long haul flying with redeyes and some prefer domestic 2-3 short legs a day. Personally I hated the 3 legs a day and short layovers… reason I jumped to 756 and the variety.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jumppilot View Post
I feel bad for the junior peeps. I’ve been here 15 years, 45% in the company, and even I’ve had enough of what the last year has done to NB flying.

Feel bad for them?? They have gotten the biggest career windfalls ever seen...they are ****ed about being on reserve more than a month and having to wait a year to upgrade.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual View Post
PP has already dried up… pilots who need 90-100 hours of credit time to survive are already picking up crap trips for book value.
Really? I’ve flown 5 days of 100%PP in the last 7 days and already there was a 100% 2 day for tomorrow I could have grabbed if I wanted.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH;[url=tel:3499500
3499500[/url]]You’re joking right? When I came here in the mid 90’s those new guys would be doing the same flying but paying for their own training and making dirt for pay instead of making UAL wages. This is what we’ve been asking for since the RJ came on the scene. Instead of doing those 4 legs/day in an RJ, they’re doing it a major gaining seniority vs updating their apps and waiting 5-10 years for the phone to ring.
The problem isn’t doing 3-4 legs a day. It’s doing 3-4 legs a day and still only averaging 5 hours a day (maybe plus a few minutes).

Make it 6-7 hours a day to shave off a few works days a month, then it’s a different conversation .
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Old 09-23-2022, 04:56 AM
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Maybe add a Guam-like stipend for SFO. An extra 3k per month would fill 95% of the vacancies in that base.
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