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Nucflash 10-05-2022 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by jrydel (Post 3505483)
Is there any way into TK if not on property already? I was just hired by a LCC and am trying everything to get to UA. I was an instructor at my regional and would love to do the same at UA.

No…..you presently have to be on the seniority list and then on the property for 12 bid periods.

Airhoss 10-08-2022 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3506147)
And the company is going to somehow track this "all the time" and provide credit of some sort for FTI pilot applicants? FTI's teach aircraft systems, correct? Do they teach flying (flows, flying technique, SOP, normals, or non-normals)?

TA1 got shot down, and ALPA reps are getting recalled because, among other things, they gave up scope by using former UAL pilots. These proposed non-seniority list pilots have a big difference between FTIs in that they WERE once on the seniority list. As a group we have spoken loud and clear - NO SCOPE GIVES. I know several FTIs and they are great guys, BUT, when they cross the line and start teaching pilot stuff, as pilots we have a responsibility to say something and possibly file a grievance. FTIs teaching pilot stuff IS a scope violation.

Everyone wants all the gouge and wants to make time at TK as painless as possible, additionally nobody (ok few) want to rock the boat. However, either we're serious about scope or we're not. If FTIs are teaching anything other than systems in the simulator, you've gotta say something.

So anyway, the FTI pathway for Aviate is spelled out in the Aviate Program Guide for those interested.

Your comment was FTI’s don’t teach in sims. They teach FTI stuff in sims all the time. They don’t teach procedures or maneuvers, but yes FTI’s do in fact use sims for systems training. I didn’t say they taught pilot stuff, just that they can and do utilize sims for their training.

01110011 10-08-2022 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3509025)
Your comment was FTI’s don’t teach in sims. They teach FTI stuff in sims all the time. They don’t teach procedures or maneuvers, but yes FTI’s do in fact use sims for systems training. I didn’t say they taught pilot stuff, just that they can and do utilize sims for their training.

And, in my new hire experience at least, they didn’t reach an ounce of pilot stuff and actually would actively deflect if we had questions that wandered in to that territory.

I understand the tension about FTI’s in general but in my experience the FTI’s were very professional and didn’t wander outside their lane.

Yellowjersey 10-25-2022 10:23 AM

Lodging while in training
 
Is a hotel provided in Denver for the pilot while in training to become an instructor if already qualified on type, yet not as a PI?

How long is the requisite training to check out?

Are there many crashpads around the TK area?

Are positive space tickets available for any period of time if not currently living in DEN area?

Thanks for input.

CHAIRMAN 10-25-2022 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Yellowjersey (Post 3519904)
Is a hotel provided in Denver for the pilot while in training to become an instructor if already qualified on type, yet not as a PI?

How long is the requisite training to check out?

Are there many crashpads around the TK area?

Are positive space tickets available for any period of time if not currently living in DEN area?

Thanks for input.


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