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New Alpa email out regarding investigation

False police report

False HR report

Lies

Unethical

Looking at possible Expulsion, termination, and class A misdemeanor

Can you point out on the dolly where she hurt you?

Your savior todd lays a massive-gassive TA (which gets the BOOT from the membership, along with Todd and most of the leadership) and you still want to yammer on about AW. Yawn.

What a complete embarrassment. For United. For the pilot group. For 034....The time to step down is long over due. This is the kind of drama we need to rid ourselves of in order to get back to the real meat. A long winded union email whining and complaining?...We are better and beyond this.

JE. Its time. Step down.

Additionally...the two videos speak for themselves.

Your boy lost…..move on. If it wasn’t for AW you’d already be working under the biggest abortion ever negotiated in the history of organized labor. A simple “thank you” will do.

So you standby her unethical behavior.
Hopefully she is fired and faces community service. Disgusting. Not UA material

Ok, so we have a literal "He said, She said". Will we ever get an actual resolution to this?

You may want to breathe into a paper bag.

Gooselives = JE?

Ugh, not the way to go out, JE. An ugly public airing of the MEC's dirty laundry before he loses his megaphone tomorrow.

The letter will probably change minds, but not in the way he had hoped. Too bad, he was well-regarded during his tenure their LEC hotel rep.

but when AW aired dirty laundry and slander lies that was ok?

Do they? You should probably turn them over to the authorities so justice can be served. Me thinks if such videos exist, the authorities have determined they are a nothingburger. Or try posting them on social media for the world to judge… how do you think that would go? There are plenty of solid reasons to vote in favor of a recall, but this bogus incident is not one of them. Shame.

Ok.. that there is pretty funny.

However, on a serious note. We now have PRINTED accusations and statements. Lets see where this goes!
As someone who went through an HR "investigation" with regards to my incident at a union meeting, mine definitely didn't close as quickly as JE stated that his did in his email.
(for the record, I hope AW did not go to our HR Department)
Either way, at this point- lets see if there is an Article VIII Charge as that would require some sort of ALPA Investigation.
If AW was wrong or untruthful.. then it should be noted and there should be consequences. That being said, if JE is untruthful.. the same holds true.

What ever happened to being Dignified and resigning with your Intergrity intact?
Guess we'll know soon how the pilots he represent feel abut him.. We already know how HE feels about TA1, the process and how he views his pilot group.

Always
Motch

Guess the only punches we throw are at each other.

Doubled down on TI, after hiding the Tumi results until after the election.

Could’ve gone just gone quietly, poor choice.

I did not receive an ALPA email regarding any of the above mentioned subject?

An email search verified that I have not missed an email. So who got these emails and were they membership wide or only local council distributed?

I did the same. No email.

Perhaps the OP should post it? And the vids.

“UA material”

If that doesn’t smell of Delta’s years past mentality nothing does. HR has won.

You’re right about the embarrassing. For you.
Either you filed a FOIA request for the videos OR you just spoke about an open HR investigation which is a violation of the WTG and subjected yourself to termination. Nicely done. I’m going to just go ahead and call your Bologna.
Feel free to post your FOIA request though. I’ll not hold my breath.

So yours lasted longer but you were eventually Exonerated?
JEs was super fast and he was exonerated.
Shouldn’t this tell us something…. Like the accusations were completely frivolous. Hence the closing of the case so quickly?
Yea AW went to UA HR. That group of people has been weaponizing HR/LR for some time. It’s disgusting. What ever happened to calling Pro-Stands?

C34 email this morning. Embarrassing to say the least. I lost any shred of respect I had for JE left. The self preservation bravado is embarrassing.

That group?

NO KIDDING!!

To summarize, 94% of all line pilots rejected the pile of crap TA that these Toddlers brought us and STRONGLY supported and then doubled down on it after we told them it was crap! But, she’s to blame for calling out these idiots. So desperate. They all would resign if they had a shred of decency, but they don’t.

AW should resign. But she is only out for number one. Disgusting barf

She is apparently in your head…..building condos.

Fine and dandy pitchfork him. Still explain to me why it’s just fine that AW wrote lies and wasted the time of Rosemount Police and United HR on what was clearly at worst a heated conversation?

What a load of tripe. The way I see it, she was looking out for the ENTIRE group. Your FNG myopia just can't see that. Her intransigence and attitude are emblematic of the pushback that successfully blew up the utterly worthless TA. Perhaps if you looked a little at ALPA history and pushed your focal point out a bit further than the tip of YOUR nose, you might understand why most of the posts on this thread are in support of her and are mocking you.

Todds done. He made his bed.

One more thing, you kept your job. Now is the time to hammer down improvements to your next contract. The one that's what, 4 yrs overdue? If you accept pennies on the dollar owed you that's what you'll get next time as well.

yea. The group of pilots who call themselves “strong unionists” then go running to HR/LR to weaponize the company against pilots who don’t agree with them for their political gain.
ANN
WENDY
PHIL
JIM
DON THE DRUNK

You don’t have a clue and you’ve got the wrong Phil. Luckily the bad one got recalled.

JE is obviously lying and I love how he is now trying to blame management for the Toddlers four year disaster. Yea, let’s stick with these clowns, not.

You understand your boy TI went to HR more than once….right?

How is it obvious that JE is lying? AW made some pretty serious accusations against JE a few months ago and now it comes out that she filed an HR complaint…is that how our union rolls? So disappointing to hear about this HR complaint as well as others that TI initiated.

Any adults in this forum?

He pretends he was exonerated. If that was the case she would be terminated and prosecuted. There is not enough evidence either way due to a lack of witnesses/evidence. It is a classic she said, he said scenario. And he did fly home. Ask anyone at the MEC meeting. And best of all he pretends the company is to blame for not upping the ante when he was selling TA1 as the right contract at the right time just a few weeks ago after four years of negotiations that he was supposed to be overseeing.

You don’t need to be a world class critical thinker to see he is lying his ass off the night before he is possibly removed from office. As someone else pointed out the Toddlers have been going to HR. Pure projection just like their sudden calls for unity. UFB.

You’re obviously not a world class critical thinker. Or even a person who can read. JE shows up in the minutes of the meeting for the day following the AW allegations.
Most reps flew home. You don’t have to ask people to know that. It’s all about WHEN. The wheels of justice grind slowly. It’s coming for AW.
What’s Todd still got to do with this? Other than you throwing his name in there cause u hate him. Move on dude.
If your excuse for AWs crew going to HR is: “TI also did it” and you wanted him out, you must want her gone too then. Otherwise, sounds like you earn the title of hypocrite.
This guy is a hypocrite and a hater.
and
Ragincajin is a liar.
y’all are too easy. You should just stop. It’s see through.

This thread is pushing me back on the “recall everyone” bandwagon.

Yep, he took off that day. Notice he is not present for the morning roll call the next day on Thursday, July 14, 2022. But nice try. Too funny.

You also must have missed this from the minutes.

Captain AL is appointed by Chairman Hamilton as Sergeant at Arms for this meeting

Why was a Sergeant at Arms required on Wednesday?

You prove my point. There was an “assault”, but he was present the second half of that day and the whole next day. He Didn’t go home until the day after.
hmmmmmm
That doesn’t sound congruent with there actually being any real assault.
You’re assuming he went home 2 days later because of something that happened? You know about assumptions right?
I can’t wait to hear what BS u twist next.

Yep, that was when the Rosemont police contacted the MEC office, and then they knew it was serious. Up until then Mike Hamilton only felt the need to assign a Sergeant at Arms Wednesday morning which I haven't seen since the Dubo days. And JE did not attend the meeting on Thursday when he was flying home during the MEC meeting.

Like I said it is clear that JE is lying through his teeth.

Where exactly is the lie? You pívot to change your truth. And you testify as if you were there. I guess you’re also in Mike Hamilton’s head too LOL
First, he leaves and it’s an admission of guilt. Then he stays but goes home later so it’s guilt. You are trying to have it both ways.

Nice try but here are the facts:
Police department found NO evidence of assault. (I guess they must have not seen RaginCagins alternative reality video tapes)
UAL didn’t take issue with his conduct. He’s flying a normal schedule. And as our friend Motch pointed out, he was returned to service much quicker than his own debacle.
So tell me next, you saw this with your own eyes?

But but but, Dubinsky this, and TI that and Sargent at arms this. Ooooooh piece of candy.
I’m done with you. I don’t think anybody believes you.

I agree she should face termination for lies and unethical conduct not becoming of a captain or pilot. Her day will come. She clearly wanted to play a victim card to the top. She is out for number 1. Only cares about her pay.