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three1five 12-26-2022 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3559873)
ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

Stop trolling and move on. FAA expects FAA-approved company procedures to be followed. In this case taxiing without final weights is an FAA-approved procedure. If an overweight taxi occurs that’s a (relatively) easy maintenance inspection and happens so infrequently it’s worth the 99.999% of times the procedure works well. The company knows all of this when they write procedures and the FAA knows all of this when they approve the procedures.

Levigarrett 12-26-2022 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3559873)
You're not serious are you? It happens often enough that I've twice been on a ual plane that was overloaded and we had to RTG to kick off revenue passengers. Weather wasn't a factor.



ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

Sure, that happened.

MasterOfPuppets 12-26-2022 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen;[url=tel:3559873
3559873[/url]]You're not serious are you? It happens often enough that I've twice been on a ual plane that was overloaded and we had to RTG to kick off revenue passengers. Weather wasn't a factor.



ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

aren’t you the one that about a month ago called us all stupid for burning gas down below max takeoff weight?

which side are you on? The side that cares or the side that doesn’t?

because right now you are just and ignorant fool.

AxlF16 12-26-2022 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3559873)
You're not serious are you? It happens often enough that I've twice been on a ual plane that was overloaded and we had to RTG to kick off revenue passengers. Weather wasn't a factor.



ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

We can be above our MTOG but still under max taxi weight.

Larry in TN 12-26-2022 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3559849)
You need to know what your airplane weighs before push. How else do you determine if you are over maximum ramp/taxi weight?

This isn't something that United came up with on their own. American was taxiing without final weights when I was hired with Eagle in 1991. I'm sure Delta does the same.

If it was a violation, I'm sure the FAA would have noticed by now.

PipeMan 12-26-2022 06:30 PM

I haven’t seen any posts here that will change my opinion. Just let all the load planners go and assign their duties to dispatchers. Less people involved in the mix is usually a good thing in my experience.

MasterOfPuppets 12-26-2022 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3560167)
I haven’t seen any posts here that will change my opinion. Just let all the load planners go and assign their duties to dispatchers. Less people involved in the mix is usually a good thing in my experience.

so dispatch should figure out what cargo has to go today and what cargo can go tomorrow?

Whether or not it’s worth it to leave passengers and non revs behind?

where to load the cargo to keep the plane in weight and balance?

you know most airplanes have more than 1 pit…..

threeighteen 12-26-2022 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3560000)
aren’t you the one that about a month ago called us all stupid for burning gas down below max takeoff weight?

which side are you on? The side that cares or the side that doesn’t?

because right now you are just and ignorant fool.

No I definitely was on the other side of that argument. That guy was some idiot who flies for foreign carrier who said it wasn't a big deal to takeoff above MTOW.

Either way, legal or not, it would be nice if ya'll could get your ducks in a row before you block the taxiway to the runway,

signed,
the rest of the industry (minus American).

ReadOnly7 12-26-2022 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3560167)
I haven’t seen any posts here that will change my opinion. Just let all the load planners go and assign their duties to dispatchers. Less people involved in the mix is usually a good thing in my experience.

This particular co-worker of yours thinks that YOU should be the one let go.

jdavk 12-27-2022 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3560167)
Just let all the load planners go and assign their duties to dispatchers.

Do you have any idea how many flights operating concurrently are assigned to a single dispatcher? (Hint: it’s more than one.)


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