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12-26-2022 | 09:04 AM

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ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

Stop trolling and move on. FAA expects FAA-approved company procedures to be followed. In this case taxiing without final weights is an FAA-approved procedure. If an overweight taxi occurs that’s a (relatively) easy maintenance inspection and happens so infrequently it’s worth the 99.999% of times the procedure works well. The company knows all of this when they write procedures and the FAA knows all of this when they approve the procedures.

12-26-2022 | 11:18 AM

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You're not serious are you? It happens often enough that I've twice been on a ual plane that was overloaded and we had to RTG to kick off revenue passengers. Weather wasn't a factor.

ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

Sure, that happened.

12-26-2022 | 01:02 PM

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3559873[/url]]You're not serious are you? It happens often enough that I've twice been on a ual plane that was overloaded and we had to RTG to kick off revenue passengers. Weather wasn't a factor.

ah yes... the old "not my problem, i'm just the captain" excuse. I've gotten away with a lot by using that one.

aren’t you the one that about a month ago called us all stupid for burning gas down below max takeoff weight?

which side are you on? The side that cares or the side that doesn’t?

because right now you are just and ignorant fool.

12-26-2022 | 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

We can be above our MTOG but still under max taxi weight.

12-26-2022 | 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

You need to know what your airplane weighs before push. How else do you determine if you are over maximum ramp/taxi weight?

This isn't something that United came up with on their own. American was taxiing without final weights when I was hired with Eagle in 1991. I'm sure Delta does the same.

If it was a violation, I'm sure the FAA would have noticed by now.

12-26-2022 | 06:30 PM

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I haven’t seen any posts here that will change my opinion. Just let all the load planners go and assign their duties to dispatchers. Less people involved in the mix is usually a good thing in my experience.

12-26-2022 | 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PipeMan

so dispatch should figure out what cargo has to go today and what cargo can go tomorrow?

Whether or not it’s worth it to leave passengers and non revs behind?

where to load the cargo to keep the plane in weight and balance?

you know most airplanes have more than 1 pit…..

12-26-2022 | 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

No I definitely was on the other side of that argument. That guy was some idiot who flies for foreign carrier who said it wasn't a big deal to takeoff above MTOW.

Either way, legal or not, it would be nice if ya'll could get your ducks in a row before you block the taxiway to the runway,

signed,
the rest of the industry (minus American).