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snackysmores 01-15-2023 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tangalanga (Post 3571748)
Thank you. I'm trying not to make my decisions based on "first year pay". I can deal with 12 months period with other resources. But no, I don't want to leave around a dangerous area.
I'm thinking that making the effort ( residing in an expensive area) the first year can be beneficial on the long term or near future (seniority progression and everything that comes with it mostly)
I gatter for what you say that there is not much difference between LAX and SFO?
Thanks

Tangalanga

You'll get better seniority progression in SFO rather than lax. SFO has all fleets, LAX does not have the 777. If you can do $3k/month for a single bedroom apartment in the nice areas of the east bay, it's about a 40 min drive to the airport. Walnut creek, danville, san ramon, dublin/pleasanton. West side of the bay check out Burlingame, certain parts of San Mateo, Foster City. If you live closer to SJC you can pick up trips out of there.

Tangalanga 01-15-2023 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3572083)
You must be off probation, and apply for and be hired as an instructor. Pay is 90 hours at whatever aircraft you could hold, regardless of what you actually fly. So any 737 instructor with a pulse could hold a 777 FO right now, therefore they get paid as if they're a WB FO, capped at the 9 year mark. A 2 year 73 TI is paid as a 2 year 777 FO x 90 hrs a month. A 12 year FO only makes the 9 year pay band. Most instructors seem to be in that "I could be a CA, but why sit on reserve forever" niche

Thank you, very clear. For what I read in another post, it is not a very nice position if you are not DEN base since it's a full time job.
I thought that simulator instructor could be a part-time, an even mix with flying, that's how is done at my current airline.
Thank you for the info.

Tangalanga

Tangalanga 01-15-2023 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3572108)
You'll get better seniority progression in SFO rather than lax. SFO has all fleets, LAX does not have the 777. If you can do $3k/month for a single bedroom apartment in the nice areas of the east bay, it's about a 40 min drive to the airport. Walnut creek, danville, san ramon, dublin/pleasanton. West side of the bay check out Burlingame, certain parts of San Mateo, Foster City. If you live closer to SJC you can pick up trips out of there.


Great information since I have no clue about neighborhoods or areas. I just visited once, for a 5 day mini-vacation and fall in love with the entire area.
I guess the effort with rent is worthed if you reside where you want. I'll be burning ZILLOW today checking your recommendations.
So SFO base covers SJC understand, any other airport?
Thank you very much!!!

Tanga

paulcg77 01-15-2023 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Tangalanga (Post 3572293)
Great information since I have no clue about neighborhoods or areas. I just visited once, for a 5 day mini-vacation and fall in love with the entire area.
I guess the effort with rent is worthed if you reside where you want. I'll be burning ZILLOW today checking your recommendations.
So SFO base covers SJC understand, any other airport?
Thank you very much!!!

Tanga

I'm a Bay Area native. I haven't lived there in a few decades but all of my family is still there. The good news is, prices have been static or declining lately in the Bay Area for a number of reasons, including a lot of tech workers leaving for states with a lower cost of living where they can work from home... For renting, there are a lot of new apartment buildings in Dublin in particular, especially near I-580. If you have a family and a working spouse and can afford to rent (or buy) a house, Pleasanton is probably the nicest city in the East Bay, followed by Danville and Walnut Creek. Livermore is also nice and slightly less expensive. If you have a large enough budget and want cooler weather in the summer, most of the North Bay is nice. Petaluma is a really cool city, and Sebastopol and the Russian River area is a little slice of heaven if you want a quieter outdoorsy small town experience, about 1 hour north of downtown SF and about 90 minutes from SFO. Obviously, Napa up to Calistoga is beautiful, but that's pretty much unobtainium unless you're a millionaire. The good news is, you're only about 45 minutes drive to the best vineyards in Napa from somewhere like Walnut Creek.

snackysmores 01-16-2023 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by paulcg77 (Post 3572296)
For renting, there are a lot of new apartment buildings in Dublin in particular, especially near I-580.

I like to call these the projects for rich people.

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-16-2023 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by paulcg77 (Post 3572296)
I'm a Bay Area native. I haven't lived there in a few decades but all of my family is still there. The good news is, prices have been static or declining lately in the Bay Area for a number of reasons, including a lot of tech workers leaving for states with a lower cost of living where they can work from home... For renting, there are a lot of new apartment buildings in Dublin in particular, especially near I-580. If you have a family and a working spouse and can afford to rent (or buy) a house, Pleasanton is probably the nicest city in the East Bay, followed by Danville and Walnut Creek. Livermore is also nice and slightly less expensive. If you have a large enough budget and want cooler weather in the summer, most of the North Bay is nice. Petaluma is a really cool city, and Sebastopol and the Russian River area is a little slice of heaven if you want a quieter outdoorsy small town experience, about 1 hour north of downtown SF and about 90 minutes from SFO. Obviously, Napa up to Calistoga is beautiful, but that's pretty much unobtainium unless you're a millionaire. The good news is, you're only about 45 minutes drive to the best vineyards in Napa from somewhere like Walnut Creek.

Spot on, bay area native also

paulcg77 01-16-2023 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3572305)
I like to call these the projects for rich people.

I assume you live in the area. I was there off 580 in Dublin a few weeks ago visiting a high school friend and he took me to this local tap n' pour pub start up called 'Thirsty Bay' that shares space with one of the newer apartment buildings there. It was fantastic, I highly recommend it. Diamond in the ruff kind of place, pretty cool concept too. https://www.thirstybay.com/

OOfff 01-16-2023 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3571641)
You aren't going to be able to afford living in the Bay Area or anywhere close to LAX on first year FO pay. That's assuming you don't want to live in a hood and risk getting shanked on your way to and from work.

nonsense. There are plenty of safe and reasonably affordable places in LA.

idlethrust 01-16-2023 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3571641)
You aren't going to be able to afford living in the Bay Area or anywhere close to LAX on first year FO pay. That's assuming you don't want to live in a hood and risk getting shanked on your way to and from work.

Hell it might be another pilot doing the shanking. Trying to pick up a little extra spare change on his day off . 🤣😂

snackysmores 01-16-2023 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by paulcg77 (Post 3572624)
I assume you live in the area. I was there off 580 in Dublin a few weeks ago visiting a high school friend and he took me to this local tap n' pour pub start up called 'Thirsty Bay' that shares space with one of the newer apartment buildings there. It was fantastic, I highly recommend it. Diamond in the ruff kind of place, pretty cool concept too. https://www.thirstybay.com/

I'm sure they're probably nice inside, I just don't like the cookie cutter back to back houses with no yards. All of this used to be wide open space and it's been sad watching every inch of green space get developed over the years. This is pretty much what you're limited to buying unless you have a spare 2.5-3m laying around.

tengssuuciurta 01-16-2023 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3572645)
nonsense. There are plenty of safe and reasonably affordable places in LA.

lol


lmao

Tangalanga 01-17-2023 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by paulcg77 (Post 3572296)
I'm a Bay Area native. I haven't lived there in a few decades but all of my family is still there. The good news is, prices have been static or declining lately in the Bay Area for a number of reasons, including a lot of tech workers leaving for states with a lower cost of living where they can work from home... For renting, there are a lot of new apartment buildings in Dublin in particular, especially near I-580. If you have a family and a working spouse and can afford to rent (or buy) a house, Pleasanton is probably the nicest city in the East Bay, followed by Danville and Walnut Creek. Livermore is also nice and slightly less expensive. If you have a large enough budget and want cooler weather in the summer, most of the North Bay is nice. Petaluma is a really cool city, and Sebastopol and the Russian River area is a little slice of heaven if you want a quieter outdoorsy small town experience, about 1 hour north of downtown SF and about 90 minutes from SFO. Obviously, Napa up to Calistoga is beautiful, but that's pretty much unobtainium unless you're a millionaire. The good news is, you're only about 45 minutes drive to the best vineyards in Napa from somewhere like Walnut Creek.

Thank you for taking your time sharing this valuable information. I'm already looking at your recommendations.

Tangalanga


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