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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3577229)

AA has a MIA hub that captures big demand going down to SA. UA or SL neither have hubs that can capture that same kind of demand….

huh? Why can you not funnel the same demand through ATL or IAH? What is special about MIA?

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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3577229)

AA has a MIA hub that captures big demand going down to SA. UA or SL neither have hubs that can capture that same kind of demand….

I think what you mean to say is Miami captures O&D and connections. Atlanta and Houston are far more powerful hubs from a connecting standpoint than Miami.

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Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3577123)

How’d you come up with this statement? I haven’t seen this…ever! Cockpit yes, bunk no. You want instant drama with the FAs, put someone in 1A.🙄 I don’t know what it is about it.
UA needs to return to at least two EZE departures a day. Having only one a day is embarrassing! How many does AA have nightly, 4-5? We should at least put a 777-300 on it.
The flt is always full, but there is usually a seat or two avail for a nonrev.

Maybe the yields dont support 2 flights a day? I dont think we want to copy AA too often

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Originally Posted by jdavk (Post 3576844)

Yeah, my replies weren’t very clear, sorry.

To get an open seat in the back (if any are available) during the boarding process then seniority rules within the same boarding priority (positive space non-rev vice space available non-rev, vacation passes over regular space available passes, etc.). Status, whether you’re a ramper or a pilot, doesn’t matter.

However, for a cockpit jump seat rider who is a pilot, seniority is the sole determining factor. A senior F/O would have priority over a junior Captain, for example.

I usually do EZE or GRU from IAH three or four times per month and we see pilot jump seat riders maybe 25% of the time, although the average is somewhat higher during South America’s summer season (now).

Not 100% true. Scabs from 1983 or 1985 have never ridden on my jumpseat. I’d take a wet behind the ears new hire over a scab, but other than that, yes, seniority rules.

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Originally Posted by jdavk (Post 3577143)

…We don’t get -300s in IAH. If we did they would probably have to be flown by SFO or IAD crews. Lol

Funny! Sadly that’s true. I see myself having to go to landings class because of that practice.
I shouldn’t say never happens, but have seen a pilot come up and say hi and not offered either. I even asked the Capt about it too. On a different flt it was a four man crew. Talk about disappointed when he came up.

Hi folks , question related to the travel internationally is it possible to book just for the jumpseat and get a seat at the gate? Or is it also required to book for regular SA in order to pay the taxes? TIA

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Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3577252)

huh? Why can you not funnel the same demand through ATL or IAH? What is special about MIA?

It’s Miami…. Their population have heavy ties to Argentina. Because of that, AA has sways has been able to leverage that MIA O&D local market to fill their Argentina flying out of their MIA hub. Houston doesn’t have the same O&D demand to Argentina that United can leverage hence the lower amount of frequencies….There was a reason why Delta swoop in on LATAM and trying to set up shop in Miami as well….

Thank you for the answer in regards of the jump-seat IAH-EZE.
Any information about how good or bad is SFO-IAH as an standby will be highly appreciated.

Regarding the MIA thing, American, and the frequencies to Argentina, well, one thing is factual: Miami is the only city in the US where there is a big argentinian community (more than 100.000 reported in some websites). There is even the "little Buenos Aires". Plus, MIA is the most popular destinations in the US for the argentinians. 3 AA flights per day to EZE before covid...always full.
I have no idea the legal , logistical or commercial aspect of it, if UNITED is able to get some of that business or not. Can United operate that route?

What is interesting is the attached picture. NOTHING west of Dallas is serviced by ANY airline to Buenos Aires. The west-coast is totally neglected. I remember it was LAX-EZE before, by AA and also Aerolineas Argentinas many years ago... but absolutely nothing now, I wonder if that can be a good option for UNITED. Anyway, I always try to avoid making "commercial analyses or opinions", since I have no clue about many factors involved, so there is the risk of just be talking BS.

Hopefully IAH-EZE will be twice a day and using the 300.

Thanks

Tangalanga

SFO - IAH is hub to hub. The flights are not empty. Some days you might get a seat, some days you might be in a jumpseat. United loads domestically also tend to dramatically change day of.