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Tangalanga 01-21-2023 11:44 PM

SFO-IAH-EZE "pseudo-commuting"
 
Hello!!!
Potential New joiner here, forgive my ignorance, I'm trying to manage my expectations about the future.

I will not commute, but definitely considering to go once or twice a month from SFO to IAH using any of the 3 flights available between 9:00/13:00, to then catch the IAH-EZE to see my family.

How is this sector (SFO-IAH) normally doing with commuters?
I see that it is operated by 737, 757 and 777 so different options regarding jump seats, but, many commuters on this route that will make my chances to get on board slim?
Are in general commuters going at the mentioned times? or they usually use earlier or later flights?

How about the IAH-EZE sector?
I guess no many staff asking for Jump-seat on that one... Friend told me that captains (in general), will allow you to seat in the flight deck if no seats available.
Any rule on that? Can we use the flight deck in an international flight? Are we allowed to use the bunk (long day starting from SFO?
How about loads in general? Easy flight to get in as standby? or it is like American's MIA-EZE, with 30/40 standbys in each flight.

Last but not least... priority for boarding is by seniority only? or you position plays a role? In my present company, a Captain will always have priority over and FO, an FO over a Cabin Crew and so on, regardless of seniority. How is at United?

Sorry and Thank you everyone.

Tangalanga

jdavk 01-22-2023 04:54 AM

We left about 20 non-revs behind in EZE a couple days ago. Every seat filled with revenue pax.

Most captains will let you have the break seat (1A) for takeoff and landing and the top bunk is yours if one of the pilots wants the seat for their break.

Seniority rules - status doesn’t matter.

jdavk 01-22-2023 06:17 AM

To clarify, seniority rules within the pilot ranks; status doesn’t matter.

Tangalanga 01-22-2023 06:38 AM

Thank for answering Jdavk!

EZE-IAH full!!!!, wow!!!!

So just to clarify the "status" thing... since you said "within the pilots ranks"...

Pilots have top priority then? Or a flight attendant, gate agent or any other position in the company will have the priority if she/he is more senior?
Should I assume that basically, the only one that will bump me out of a flight is a more senior pilot, no one else? Did I get it right?

Sorry and thank you.

Tanga

Duckdude 01-22-2023 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Tangalanga (Post 3576826)
Thank for answering Jdavk!

EZE-IAH full!!!!, wow!!!!

So just to clarify the "status" thing... since you said "within the pilots ranks"...

Pilots have top priority then? Or a flight attendant, gate agent or any other position in the company will have the priority if she/he is more senior?
Should I assume that basically, the only one that will bump me out of a flight is a more senior pilot, no one else? Did I get it right?

Sorry and thank you.

Tanga

Non revenue travel is generally by company hire date, regardless of position. I know some of the furloughed Continental pilots have a travel date later than their hire date, but I think that’s only a few hundred people.

There are also a limited number of vacation passes that place you in a higher status, but within that higher status it’s still based on hire date. So if you use a vacation pass, and so does another employee, hire date will determine who goes first.

jdavk 01-22-2023 07:02 AM

Yeah, my replies weren’t very clear, sorry.

To get an open seat in the back (if any are available) during the boarding process then seniority rules within the same boarding priority (positive space non-rev vice space available non-rev, vacation passes over regular space available passes, etc.). Status, whether you’re a ramper or a pilot, doesn’t matter.

However, for a cockpit jump seat rider who is a pilot, seniority is the sole determining factor. A senior F/O would have priority over a junior Captain, for example.

I usually do EZE or GRU from IAH three or four times per month and we see pilot jump seat riders maybe 25% of the time, although the average is somewhat higher during South America’s summer season (now).

F15andMD11 01-22-2023 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by jdavk (Post 3576748)
…Most captains will let you have the break seat (1A) for takeoff and landing and the top bunk is yours if one of the pilots wants the seat for their break…

How’d you come up with this statement? I haven’t seen this…ever! Cockpit yes, bunk no. You want instant drama with the FAs, put someone in 1A.🙄 I don’t know what it is about it.
UA needs to return to at least two EZE departures a day. Having only one a day is embarrassing! How many does AA have nightly, 4-5? We should at least put a 777-300 on it.
The flt is always full, but there is usually a seat or two avail for a nonrev.

jdavk 01-22-2023 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3577123)
How’d you come up with this statement? I haven’t seen this…ever!

It’s happened on my flights twice in the last 30 days. FAs had no issue with it. YMMV


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3577123)
We should at least put a 777-300 on it.

We don’t get -300s in IAH. If we did they would probably have to be flown by SFO or IAD crews. Lol

Swakid8 01-22-2023 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3577123)
How’d you come up with this statement? I haven’t seen this…ever! Cockpit yes, bunk no. You want instant drama with the FAs, put someone in 1A.🙄 I don’t know what it is about it.
UA needs to return to at least two EZE departures a day. Having only one a day is embarrassing! How many does AA have nightly, 4-5? We should at least put a 777-300 on it.
The flt is always full, but there is usually a seat or two avail for a nonrev.

AA has a MIA hub that captures big demand going down to SA. UA or SL neither have hubs that can capture that same kind of demand….

nene 01-22-2023 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tangalanga (Post 3576714)
Hello!!!
Potential New joiner here, forgive my ignorance, I'm trying to manage my expectations about the future.

I will not commute, but definitely considering to go once or twice a month from SFO to IAH using any of the 3 flights available between 9:00/13:00, to then catch the IAH-EZE to see my family.

How is this sector (SFO-IAH) normally doing with commuters?
I see that it is operated by 737, 757 and 777 so different options regarding jump seats, but, many commuters on this route that will make my chances to get on board slim?
Are in general commuters going at the mentioned times? or they usually use earlier or later flights?

How about the IAH-EZE sector?
I guess no many staff asking for Jump-seat on that one... Friend told me that captains (in general), will allow you to seat in the flight deck if no seats available.
Any rule on that? Can we use the flight deck in an international flight? Are we allowed to use the bunk (long day starting from SFO?
How about loads in general? Easy flight to get in as standby? or it is like American's MIA-EZE, with 30/40 standbys in each flight.

Last but not least... priority for boarding is by seniority only? or you position plays a role? In my present company, a Captain will always have priority over and FO, an FO over a Cabin Crew and so on, regardless of seniority. How is at United?

Sorry and Thank you everyone.

Tangalanga

Congrats on the potential hire.

Usually pilots are more senior/older before they have "family" in EZE.


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