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LAXtoDEN 03-18-2023 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by HiPlaneDrifter (Post 3609652)
The benefit of being a NB lineholder Captain with 15-17 days off, which was the main benefit of being a line holder, doesn’t exist anymore. Who wants to pick up a trip, even if you could, with 13 days off scheduled. The company can add all the summer flying they want. There is little manpower in NB Captain to absorb it. Commuting really is a non issue, you’re going to be working.

That’s the result of the NB’s replacing RJ flying. I would assume your QOL will get much worse before it ever gets better on the NB fleet. The regionals will only shrink for the next few years, then another few years to recover if they ever recover? Hopefully not.

Southwest line holders average 17-18 days off per month with around the same credit. I would think guaranteed days off per month would be an emphasis item in your upcoming TA because clearly UA scheduling struggles to put together efficient line pairings.

RaginCajun 03-18-2023 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp (Post 3609447)
Source?

filler

Page 3. Last paragraph mentions it.

TFAYD 03-18-2023 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3609664)
That’s the result of the NB’s replacing RJ flying. I would assume your QOL will get much worse before it ever gets better on the NB fleet. The regionals will only shrink for the next few years, then another few years to recover if they ever recover? Hopefully not.

Southwest line holders average 17-18 days off per month with around the same credit. I would think guaranteed days off per month would be an emphasis item in your upcoming TA because clearly UA scheduling struggles to put together efficient line pairings.

why would it ever get better? Once they figure out that they can get away with it they will stick to max pilot utilization

YellowBusMarine 03-18-2023 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3609436)
talking about 12 th year top pay year

Gotcha. My bad.

m3113n1a1 03-18-2023 09:58 PM

You guys only get 13 days off as a lineholder? Is that only in really high credit months or is this normal? At Delta I've never had less than 15 off as a 737 lineholder and 17-18 is fairly normal.

Brickfire 03-19-2023 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3609767)
You guys only get 13 days off as a lineholder? Is that only in really high credit months or is this normal? At Delta I've never had less than 15 off as a 737 lineholder and 17-18 is fairly normal.

90/5=18

All 737 captain lines are 90 hours or close because they’re so short-staffed

Hedley 03-19-2023 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Brickfire (Post 3609815)
90/5=18

All 737 captain lines are 90 hours or close because they’re so short

That’s not true except for junior line holders. I haven’t been awarded over 78 hours in a long time and average 15-16 days off per month. Lots of 70 hr awards on the 737 this month too (IAH). EWR seems higher than either DEN, IAH, or ORD, but still plenty of 78 hour lines with 16 days off. If you’re junior though, you have to take what is left which means that you’re going to fly high time lines.

CQKSNT 03-19-2023 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3609824)
That’s not true except for junior line holders. I haven’t been awarded over 78 hours in a long time and average 15-16 days off per month. Lots of 70 hr awards on the 737 this month too (IAH). EWR seems higher than either DEN, IAH, or ORD, but still plenty of 78 hour lines with 16 days off. If you’re junior though, you have to take what is left which means that you’re going to fly high time lines.

We are seeing different things. I audited this a few days ago to gauge my own interest, and every April line in IAH around 50% seniority is 13ish days off and 89.x hours.

ThumbsUp 03-19-2023 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by CQKSNT (Post 3609845)
We are seeing different things. I audited this a few days ago to gauge my own interest, and every April line in IAH around 50% seniority is 13ish days off and 89.x hours.


Think you need to look again. That’s not even possible. LCC was 78.5.

Hedley 03-19-2023 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by CQKSNT (Post 3609845)
We are seeing different things. I audited this a few days ago to gauge my own interest, and every April line in IAH around 50% seniority is 13ish days off and 89.x hours.

The post was about captain awards. In the top 1/3 lots of awards just under 70 hours. Practically every captain award is under 80 hrs. An extremely junior pilot with a 10,xxx number has a 75:56 award. Being junior in either seat on the 737 typically stinks, unless you like to fly hard.


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