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iceman21 03-20-2023 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3610335)
If he looses the FAA could go after him if it’s proven he has been colorblind all along.

If he has been passing color vision tests all along and cannot now, how is the FAA able to go after him for being colorblind all along?

drywhitetoast 03-20-2023 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by iceman21 (Post 3610351)
If he has been passing color vision tests all along and cannot now, how is the FAA able to go after him for being colorblind all along?

Go after the AME

CousinEddie 03-20-2023 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Pervis (Post 3610342)
Sheesh. I sure as heck wouldn’t want a jury of my peers loaded with fellow pilots. Why is it judgement comes before facts, just like the self proclaimed experts on accidents and incidents before the fires are out? This guy may very well be trying to game the system. Then again, maybe not. Personally, I’ll trust my crew mates far more than I trust management.

The commute burned him out so quickly that he found himself in a colorless gray world.

Keep paying those premiums chumps.

Pilot4000 03-20-2023 08:59 AM

Seems like got his medical back....

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N22AZ

TiredSoul 03-20-2023 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by iceman21 (Post 3610351)
If he has been passing color vision tests all along and cannot now, how is the FAA able to go after him for being colorblind all along?

“Passing” or otherwise knowingly applying for a medical with fraudulent intent.
It would have to be proven there is no evidence of sudden color vision loss.
Well if he’s still claiming and there is no “sudden” then it must have been there before.
It takes a lot to fail a color test. There’s the Ishihara then an alternate test or two then the lantern test.

highfarfast 03-20-2023 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by eagleatr (Post 3610322)
I asked my AME once since I've been doing the color blindness test for a lot of years if you could go color blind if you weren't born that way. His answer was very simple: no (excluding some kind of eye/head injury or eye disease).

It's funny this comes up now. I just asked my AME the same question 5 months ago and he said the same. He added that he asked the guy that came to observe him doing exams why this was tested on every exam. I can't remember the answer given but it wasn't convincing as a "we need to do this" argument.

Fwiw, my AME is a pilot.

Random Task 03-20-2023 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Pervis (Post 3610342)
just like the self proclaimed experts on accidents and incidents before the fires are out?

Incidents/accidents, virology, economics, law. Pilots are experts in every field imaginable. Who knew? Bet the same people love when a passenger comments on anything aviation related.

webecheck 03-21-2023 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3610390)
Seems like got his medical back....

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N22AZ

you must know the guy, and if this is in fact him, his lawsuit is done and he’s about to be countersued.

Pilot4000 03-21-2023 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 3610983)
you must know the guy, and if this is in fact him, his lawsuit is done and he’s about to be countersued.

Well, it is his airplane. Doesn't mean he's flying it, but even the worlds worst investigator would be able to do some sleuthing and determine that.

webecheck 03-21-2023 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3611006)
Well, it is his airplane. Doesn't mean he's flying it, but even the worlds worst investigator would be able to do some sleuthing and determine that.

True. I’ve seen pilots do even dumber things, but would be incredible if the guy actually tried to get away with this, although not unbelievable. Lol


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