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TiredSoul 03-23-2023 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by vetter (Post 3611882)
100% this.

Its not uncommon to be color blind suddenly. It can happen later in life due to numerous reasons. Sure the timing is a little suspect, but who are we to judge? If you got into a car crash 1 day after your medical, and claimed disability, would you like people calling you suspect? Let's not judge other people's disability.

Let the lawsuit play out. If he wins and proves he is in fact colorblind, you all will feel really stupid and he is getting one hell of a payout.

He’ll have to prove it occurred.
You know, records of medical visits to specialists yadayadayada.
Did he report these in his medical applications, you know like we all supposed to do?
Why did he continue flying if he knew he had a disqualifying condition yadayadayada.
He has got a little way to go before he van de late this a win.

sleeves 03-23-2023 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3610390)
Seems like got his medical back....

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N22AZ

He never lost the medical during the day. He lost the privilege to fly at night. That flight was in the day.

sailingfun 03-23-2023 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3611974)
He never lost the medical during the day. He lost the privilege to fly at night. That flight was in the day.

It doesn’t actually work that way and there are requirements to see day colors. He could downgrade to a sport license but the aircraft he flew would not be legal. He can apply for a SODA but that should cover his commercial flying if approved.

highfarfast 03-23-2023 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3611906)
I was issued a SODA via demonstrated ability after many years of fearful medicals. I had a good AME that walked me through the process. I have no limits, and don’t even need to take the stupid test. If they start putting pastel colors into the taxi lights that may be a problem.

Also, anyone ever seen a tower use a light gun signal? I did twice. Once because I asked them to, and the second time during my FAA test. That was 20 plus years ago.

I had to use the light gun twice.. Years ago when I was working on my commercial cert. Cleared to "taxi into position and hold" as we used to say it. Read back clearance and taxied into position and then radio silence. After a couple minutes we noticed the light gun signals from the tower. Simple stuck mic but we didn't know until we saw the lights. Second time was after a complete electrical failure on corporate flight while taxiing out at Dallas Love about 15 years or so ago. I just turned the airplane to face the tower and waited for the signal.

LJ Driver 03-23-2023 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3612097)
I had to use the light gun twice.. Years ago when I was working on my commercial cert. Cleared to "taxi into position and hold" as we used to say it. Read back clearance and taxied into position and then radio silence. After a couple minutes we noticed the light gun signals from the tower. Simple stuck mic but we didn't know until we saw the lights. Second time was after a complete electrical failure on corporate flight while taxiing out at Dallas Love about 15 years or so ago. I just turned the airplane to face the tower and waited for the signal.

Had to use it quite a bit actually. Many times as a primary (deliberate) way of staying off the radio and a few because of comm or electrical malfunctions. Doesn’t matter at all until you need it, then suddenly it’s a critical skill/ability.

sleeves 03-23-2023 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun;[url=tel:3612005
3612005]It doesn’t actually work that way and there are requirements to see day colors. He could downgrade to a sport license but the aircraft he flew would not be legal. He can apply for a SODA but that should cover his commercial flying if approved.

It actually does work that way. You leave the doctors office with a medical, it has a restriction put on it that saysnot valid for night flying or by color signal control.
United will not allow you to fly with that restriction.
Here is a good article. At the end of it it says:”If you fail the color vision testing during your medical exam you will have the restriction of
not valid for night flying or by color signal control”

https://www.color-blindness.com/2009/07/30/color-blind-testing-guide-for-pilot-applicants/


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