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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3621955)
😂 Yes! Clearly cis-hetero-males can’t catch a break & are underrepresented in our labor force as well as union & corporate leadership.
For example……..there’s a poster at one of our domiciles…of a certain individual….”good leading the way”. He’s a disgusting human being with a COMPANY-wide reputation. But….he fits the profile for what the casting department wanted. Tell me how that’s ANY better than casting the beautiful, blond, blue-eyed FA for all the magazine ads in the ‘70s. It’s not BETTER, it’s the SAME. But….discrimination should fix the problem of discrimination….right? |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3621990)
I don’t really GAF. I have my job, and you can hire EXCLUSIVELY minorities, trans, whatever.
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I would happily wear a pin that says, “I’m pretty sure I disagree with every opinion you have that doesn’t involve flying. Can I please just read?”
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3621950)
Part of the miscommunication that’s happening here is that we’re talking about two different things.
First was the MEC statement on non-discrimination, which was the subject of the original post. This was extremely benign & generic and- as discrimination is against the law, anyway- tantamount to me making a commitment to not cooking meth in my basement. Exactly no one should care about this; but I do love the irony that I’m a fragile snowflake for not being offended by it. The second topic seems to be the existence of a DEBI committee at ALPA. Again, not the topic originally in question, but fine. Now, we could attempt to have the nuanced adult conversation about the social theories upon which DEI is based, gaps in representation, concerns of overreach, etc., that has as yet eluded these forums; but in the meantime, the pragmatic reality is that a large part of this is just litigation insurance. Everyone here should be wise enough to understand that relying solely on “organic diversity”- an interesting term used to describe an industry that’s historically drawn over 90% of its labor from a single demographic, but I digress- opens any group up to potentially damaging & costly accusations. Some of you guys are so fired up on principle that you’d spend your entire war chest in court rather than having the dreaded DEI label attached to anything you’re associated with. Please grow up, take your own advice, & focus on the actual battle at hand- our contract. Also, since the union is already formed from the very same people who are vetted and hired by the company, a very intersectionally aware company; I wonder how much value a D and I committee has that my union dues are paying for. Frankly, that’s a fair question. One that was probably answered on the first thread since there are mandates for businesses to have such statements and was probably learned by the original op who was unnecessarily castigated by the childish and small behavior of the op of this thread. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3621950)
Part of the miscommunication that’s happening here is that we’re talking about two different things.
First was the MEC statement on non-discrimination, which was the subject of the original post. This was extremely benign & generic and- as discrimination is against the law, anyway- tantamount to me making a commitment to not cooking meth in my basement. Exactly no one should care about this; but I do love the irony that I’m a fragile snowflake for not being offended by it. The second topic seems to be the existence of a DEBI committee at ALPA. Again, not the topic originally in question, but fine. Now, we could attempt to have the nuanced adult conversation about the social theories upon which DEI is based, gaps in representation, concerns of overreach, etc., that has as yet eluded these forums; but in the meantime, the pragmatic reality is that a large part of this is just litigation insurance. Everyone here should be wise enough to understand that relying solely on “organic diversity”- an interesting term used to describe an industry that’s historically drawn over 90% of its labor from a single demographic, but I digress- opens any group up to potentially damaging & costly accusations. Some of you guys are so fired up on principle that you’d spend your entire war chest in court rather than having the dreaded DEI label attached to anything you’re associated with. Please grow up, take your own advice, & focus on the actual battle at hand- our contract.
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3621996)
For someone who “just doesn’t like BS”, you have an interesting way of overstating what is actually happening to a ridiculous extreme.
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3608815)
Perhaps if you considered my smug, arrogant persona a way of irritating forum patrons like yourself you’d find it more amusing? Just a suggestion…
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3621996)
For someone who “just doesn’t like BS”, you have an interesting way of overstating what is actually happening to a ridiculous extreme.
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My gawd can you all just stop? 4 pages going back and forth about stuff that doesn’t affect you, get a hobby.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3622175)
I didn’t say that is what is happening, Captain StrawMan….. I am using hyperbole to explain how much I DON’T care what is done.
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3622175)
”good leads the way”….as long as that person isn’t a cys/heterosexual/male. Those people are ALWAYS bad. I have my job, and you can hire EXCLUSIVELY minorities, trans, whatever. Not all of us who call BS on this stuff are racists, homophobes, or xenophobes. |
Ever notice the people who calls others snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes of them all?
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Originally Posted by DownWithNarita
(Post 3622440)
Ever notice the people who calls others snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes of them all?
sounds racist to me…. |
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