Delays and Reassessment
06-01-2023 | 05:35 PM
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If a strike authorization vote at Delta, AA, WestJet, (assuming same for Fedex), etc was required before reaching an agreement, I don't see why we are any different...the current pace of UA negotiations also lends credence to this theory. I think we will have a SAV approved at the May 31 MEC meeting and the vote concluded by mid/end of June. Delta and AA both announced their SAV results and about a month later, each had an AIP. WestJet had to go a little farther, but similar timeline.
The sooner we have a SAV, especially on the heels of our massive picket turnout, the sooner we get our deal.
Timeline:
May 31 SAV approved
June 15 SAV results announced
July 15 AIP announced
The sooner we have a SAV, especially on the heels of our massive picket turnout, the sooner we get our deal.
Timeline:
May 31 SAV approved
June 15 SAV results announced
July 15 AIP announced
MEC Unanimously Authorizes Strike Vote
This evening, the MEC voted unanimously on the following resolution:
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the UAL MEC authorizes the Master Chair to conduct a strike authorization vote, and;
THEREFORE BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the Master Chair will inform the Company (UAL) and our pilot group of the intent to conduct a strike authorization vote."
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06-01-2023 | 07:41 PM
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Literally pointing my bat to the outfield...
MEC Unanimously Authorizes Strike Vote
This evening, the MEC voted unanimously on the following resolution:
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the UAL MEC authorizes the Master Chair to conduct a strike authorization vote, and;
THEREFORE BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the Master Chair will inform the Company (UAL) and our pilot group of the intent to conduct a strike authorization vote."
"
MEC Unanimously Authorizes Strike Vote
This evening, the MEC voted unanimously on the following resolution:
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the UAL MEC authorizes the Master Chair to conduct a strike authorization vote, and;
THEREFORE BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the Master Chair will inform the Company (UAL) and our pilot group of the intent to conduct a strike authorization vote."
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Alright Babe Ruth. Is that 7/15 date an ILC, or Kirbys latest offer?
06-01-2023 | 07:41 PM
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06-02-2023 | 02:00 AM
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Hey, I'm just reading the tea leaves. The recent FedEx AIP lends even MORE credence to my theory:
April 15 - SAV approved by MEC
May 17 - SAV approved by 99% of the 97% voting
May 30 - AIP
As another poster in another thread mentioned, and which I agree, a SAV would have had more leverage if completed earlier in the year as summer bookings were ramping up. But alas, the negative publicity this will generate (because the majority of consumers will hear "strike" but not realize it's waaaaay down the road) will pull us across the finish line without going through mediation. I would also support the union continuing to talk publicly about going to mediation AFTER a strike vote is authorized, for maximum pressure on the company.
Caveat: can we get 95%+ of pilots to vote and of that 95%+, can we hit 97-99% "YES"? The picket turnout(s), the lanyards, the overall mood tells me we can. Obviously, the MEC feels the same, hence the green light on the SAV.
I believe the MEC will get the majority of what they are asking for.
We will have an ILC by Aug 1 (but hopefully sooner).
April 15 - SAV approved by MEC
May 17 - SAV approved by 99% of the 97% voting
May 30 - AIP
As another poster in another thread mentioned, and which I agree, a SAV would have had more leverage if completed earlier in the year as summer bookings were ramping up. But alas, the negative publicity this will generate (because the majority of consumers will hear "strike" but not realize it's waaaaay down the road) will pull us across the finish line without going through mediation. I would also support the union continuing to talk publicly about going to mediation AFTER a strike vote is authorized, for maximum pressure on the company.
Caveat: can we get 95%+ of pilots to vote and of that 95%+, can we hit 97-99% "YES"? The picket turnout(s), the lanyards, the overall mood tells me we can. Obviously, the MEC feels the same, hence the green light on the SAV.
I believe the MEC will get the majority of what they are asking for.
We will have an ILC by Aug 1 (but hopefully sooner).
Last edited by MitchCornwallis; 06-02-2023 at 02:02 AM. Reason: Fedex strike % reversed
