When this is all over
06-04-2023 | 06:26 AM
#12
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Why would they be so afraid to reject it if it comes back subpar? It’s pretty easy to see that DAL is the absolute floor.
And NO, I’m not fearful of this “recession “ so many keep saying is coming. I’ve heard that since 2016
06-04-2023 | 03:25 PM
#13
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Only if the pilot group LETS that happen.
Why would they be so afraid to reject it if it comes back subpar? It’s pretty easy to see that DAL is the absolute floor.
And NO, I’m not fearful of this “recession “ so many keep saying is coming. I’ve heard that since 2016
Why would they be so afraid to reject it if it comes back subpar? It’s pretty easy to see that DAL is the absolute floor.
And NO, I’m not fearful of this “recession “ so many keep saying is coming. I’ve heard that since 2016
Also, this thread is dumb.
06-04-2023 | 06:58 PM
#14
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Keep picking up overtime guys.
Keep making those FC/gate PAs.
Don't wear your lanyard your union asks of you.
Don't show up at picketing events.
Jump through hoops to make the labor drama that goes on behind closed doors transparent.
Without you, how would United survive? I'm sure you'll get a cookie or a big bonus in your Christmas stocking this year.
I hear there's a big "TUMI of the month club" benefit that's being added into an eventual contract next year.
Good thing we don't have a threat of an actual strike right now, I can't imagine the scabs a strike would create here at this point in time.
Keep making those FC/gate PAs.
Don't wear your lanyard your union asks of you.
Don't show up at picketing events.
Jump through hoops to make the labor drama that goes on behind closed doors transparent.
Without you, how would United survive? I'm sure you'll get a cookie or a big bonus in your Christmas stocking this year.
I hear there's a big "TUMI of the month club" benefit that's being added into an eventual contract next year.
Good thing we don't have a threat of an actual strike right now, I can't imagine the scabs a strike would create here at this point in time.
06-04-2023 | 09:54 PM
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From: DHC-8 FO
06-05-2023 | 01:19 AM
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From: B-737 Captain
Remember when this is over...
United thought you were worth .15 cents on the dollar compared to your counterparts at DL and AA (tumi TA total value vs DL TA value)
United doesn't want to give you industry matching let alone industry leading profit sharing (AA mgmt offered up DL PS)
United doesn't think you deserve a seat at the table, they won't replace BQ making UA the only major airline without a pilot in senior management
United's CEO said a contract would take 2 weeks...it's been over 4 years since your contract became amendable, you should be negotiating the follow up to the contract that started in 2020, you are an entire contract behind
United's latest proposal falls short of industry matching in a number of sections, the only section that is likely to be industry leading is scope, which was fought for and won years ago. It's not industry leading if you already have it
Market forces will force United into an industry lagging/matching contract but remember when this is all over how UA treated you and if you are thinking about going to UA is that the place you want your future to be? If you have been at UA for under a couple of years, consider your options, because this won't be the last time UA treats it's pilots this way...
United thought you were worth .15 cents on the dollar compared to your counterparts at DL and AA (tumi TA total value vs DL TA value)
United doesn't want to give you industry matching let alone industry leading profit sharing (AA mgmt offered up DL PS)
United doesn't think you deserve a seat at the table, they won't replace BQ making UA the only major airline without a pilot in senior management
United's CEO said a contract would take 2 weeks...it's been over 4 years since your contract became amendable, you should be negotiating the follow up to the contract that started in 2020, you are an entire contract behind
United's latest proposal falls short of industry matching in a number of sections, the only section that is likely to be industry leading is scope, which was fought for and won years ago. It's not industry leading if you already have it
Market forces will force United into an industry lagging/matching contract but remember when this is all over how UA treated you and if you are thinking about going to UA is that the place you want your future to be? If you have been at UA for under a couple of years, consider your options, because this won't be the last time UA treats it's pilots this way...
06-05-2023 | 05:05 AM
#17
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The examples you are giving are the exact same thing.
Keep picking up overtime for all events, line or TK..
06-05-2023 | 07:53 AM
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Why are 99% of the threads pure ignorance? I guess this forum (and others) are just outlets for uninformed whining. Same as always....throw the hope for some money on the table and watch the pilots thrash about fighting each other☹️. At least in the past we waited until there was real money on the ground. Now? Just the idea of money makes us stupid.
06-05-2023 | 08:44 AM
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06-05-2023 | 08:47 AM
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man, you are clueless. How much impact does an ip or lc have on thr operatio?? A ton. Picking up an open trip has ZERO EFFECT on the operation as long as there arw reserves. Wake up.
