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JackReacher 07-12-2023 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 3664279)
Not sure where you are getting your info from. First of all the 321LRs aren't getting here for a few more years (2028) and when they do, they will only be concentrated out of EWR first, then the other east coast bases like IAD then ORD to replace old 757s for transatlantic flights.
The NEOs are still being planned out, but those would be transcon/HI. Right now, LAX 757 does very little HI flying, so no impact there. The 757 will shift a lot more to hub to hub flying which has already begun. The 757 fleet will be here until 2030 minimum. Only the really old ones will go. LAX and SFO 757 bases are going nowhere for a long time.

Per an Airbus fleet manager, the first 321 NEO arrives in October of this year and the first 321 XLR arrives in the 4th quarter of 2025.

Learjet driver 07-13-2023 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3664707)
Per an Airbus fleet manager, the first 321 NEO arrives in October of this year and the first 321 XLR arrives in the 4th quarter of 2025.

The Evac, proving runs and ETOPS flights are scheduled for September. It should hit the line in October.

PNWFlyer 07-22-2023 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3664707)
Per an Airbus fleet manager, the first 321 NEO arrives in October of this year and the first 321 XLR arrives in the 4th quarter of 2025.

XLR? Guess they are going to have to call it the SXLR. (Somewhat extra long range)

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a321...gn-safeguards/

JackReacher 07-22-2023 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3670958)
XLR? Guess they are going to have to call it the SXLR. (Somewhat extra long range)

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a321...gn-safeguards/

Article says about 200 NM. Shouldn’t really be a game changer IMO.

PNWFlyer 07-24-2023 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3670962)
Article says about 200 NM. Shouldn’t really be a game changer IMO.

that is 4% less than promised. That is a big deal to the people that agreed to but the airplane. You must be a pilot.

FrancisSawyer 07-24-2023 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3672020)
that is 4% less than promised. That is a big deal to the people that agreed to but the airplane. You must be a pilot.

200nm from Europe to the US is not the same as going the other way. Easy to divert in the US. Not so much in Europe. So for planning, a 200nm loss might add pretty high fuel requirements which in turn shortens the range even further. Hopefully, they’ll be able to get those miles back some day.

MasterOfPuppets 07-24-2023 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3670962)
Article says about 200 NM. Shouldn’t really be a game changer IMO.

thats a lot considering they want to fly it to airports where alternates are required.

deep Europe is pretty much out and now ORD to EUR will
be a stretch.

JackReacher 09-21-2023 11:54 AM

https://airwaysmag.com/united-first-...maiden-flight/

Finally some good news on the 321-NEO front.

N6279P 09-22-2023 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 3664279)
Not sure where you are getting your info from. First of all the 321LRs aren't getting here for a few more years (2028) and when they do, they will only be concentrated out of EWR first, then the other east coast bases like IAD then ORD to replace old 757s for transatlantic flights.
The NEOs are still being planned out, but those would be transcon/HI. Right now, LAX 757 does very little HI flying, so no impact there. The 757 will shift a lot more to hub to hub flying which has already begun. The 757 fleet will be here until 2030 minimum. Only the really old ones will go. LAX and SFO 757 bases are going nowhere for a long time.

You’re also mistaken. United isn’t getting any LR’s. They have the standard 321 NEO and XLR on order.

ATISInformation 10-01-2023 05:29 AM

Any truth to the rumors that MCO and LAS will be getting the Bus now that the contract is ratified?


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