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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
(Post 3670503)
Major airline pilot contracts of the past had tighter line construction constraints, didn't have PBS, and had vacation override. We used to have a very tight window on monthly credit. I believe it was only 5 to 10 hours difference between the floor and the ceiling. On all fleets. Not the 20 hour range we have now. The lines used to be more homogenous and we had a credit cap (I believe 85 credit hours) where hours would be banked and overages would be paid in future months. Nobody got a check for 100 credit hours in a month. So rates were more of a factor back in the day and there was more incentive to continue to move up than to camp out.
hours at $230 per hour is greater than 90 hours at $300 per hour. Also doing math, the 120 hours is about the same days off as the 90 hours, but I get to pick where the days off go for the 120 hour month. That’s my situation. |
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Current book and previous contracts were written by 12 year first officers. The concept of SKIPPING first upgrade opportunity is pretty well unprecidented.
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Originally Posted by FrancisSawyer
(Post 3670022)
When I worked at the pentagon, new one-star generals would show up and implement their GOBIs (general officer bright ideas). Fortunately, as most were dumb, they’d stop trying to make them work.
A little over a year ago, Carlson left, and SK brought in (I think) a former AA guy to run crew manning. He immediately ended PPU, raised the g lines, put more people on reserve, and drove the current reassignment GOBI to keep things running. And now no one wants to be a CA. Hmmmm…coincidence? If SK wants to fix this, he needs to reevaluate this hire…in my humble opinion. |
Originally Posted by KSwift76
(Post 3670505)
I certainly understand that. I just chuckle a bit when I listen to a 25 yr. old new hire FO complain about how bad it is here and how much better the work rules were at Endevskywenvoy. What a time to be an airline pilot.
When I tell my wife about how it is now she just shakes her head and says"...I can't imagine...!" |
Originally Posted by CQKSNT
(Post 3671164)
There is a common misperception that the typical new hire is an entitled 25-year-old. The reality is the average new hire is 40 and has been qualified to be a 121 captain for over 10 years.
I don’t know about their attitudes… but a 25yo new hire is no longer exceptional or even unusual. That is a notable change from three years ago. |
Originally Posted by Brickfire
(Post 3671219)
Average isn’t really a useful metric here.
I don’t know about their attitudes… but a 25yo new hire is no longer exceptional or even unusual. That is a notable change from three years ago. They’re still pretty unusual. The under 25 and under crowd accounts for less than 3% of those hired in the past year. While that’s more than it had been in the past, it still happened pre-COVID. |
Originally Posted by CQKSNT
(Post 3671164)
There is a common misperception that the typical new hire is an entitled 25-year-old. The reality is the average new hire is 40 and has been qualified to be a 121 captain for over 10 years.
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 3671229)
I’d say the median is closer to 32 with 3yrs 121 experience
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