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Pro2nd 09-03-2023 05:00 AM

TA Poll
 
Where does everyone stand on this thing?

500RVR 09-03-2023 06:49 AM

Hard No, we sold safety and that’s unconscionable! Yes a massive improvement over Tumi, but we never fought hard enough and could have done much better. DAL still leads the way and in a few areas AA is better then our TA.

LJ Driver 09-03-2023 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by 500RVR (Post 3691678)
Hard No, we sold safety and that’s unconscionable! Yes a massive improvement over Tumi, but we never fought hard enough and could have done much better. DAL still leads the way and in a few areas AA is better then our TA.

DAL has even less stringent rules for baby captains than this TA does. Stop grandstanding and get real.

Andy 09-03-2023 08:14 AM

You need a poll on this???

PipeMan 09-03-2023 08:19 AM

100% NO vote here

Rjros1988 09-03-2023 08:25 AM

Won’t let me vote
 
It wont let me vote but I’m 100% yes vote

Random1 09-03-2023 08:35 AM

Where will the captains come from?
 
It seems one of the biggest gripes is low time NBCAs. However, if senior FO positions have become so desirable where will new NBCAs come from?

sdj1986 09-03-2023 08:37 AM

The vast majority of the no voters are only voting that way because they know it will pass with flying colors. They want to be able to smugly tell people they voted no, for whatever nonsense reason they have. If it was down to the wire and they knew their vote would make a difference, they would vote yes. It’s like voting for a 3rd party candidate when you live in Texas or California. They will spend the next 5 years telling everyone they meet that they voted no.

Lenticularis 09-03-2023 08:45 AM

My guess of the split is 68% yes. It’s not industry leading except for pay which is what will sell it but not what we asked for. The RSV changes are a confusing joke with very limited LCL, Sick time increase? Really 12 more hours a year? Way behind DL. Then we have the giveaway chokehold you shall be Capt to a new hire? What happened to this place! This is a bad deal but it pays well so the gleam in the eyes of greed will vote for it.

Lenticularis 09-03-2023 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by sdj1986 (Post 3691738)
The vast majority of the no voters are only voting that way because they know it will pass with flying colors. They want to be able to smugly tell people they voted no, for whatever nonsense reason they have. If it was down to the wire and they knew their vote would make a difference, they would vote yes. It’s like voting for a 3rd party candidate when you live in Texas or California. They will spend the next 5 years telling everyone they meet that they voted no.

BS, we actually wanted tangible QOL improvements.


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