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Originally Posted by yesto67 (Post 3692893)

Exactly. If the MEC rejects the TA, the membership will implode, heads will roll, and we won’t see another TA for a couple years.

big misconception that the MEC voted on bullets… they were briefed in depth by the NC members on every change.

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Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3692896)

big misconception that the MEC voted on bullets… they were briefed in depth by the NC members on every change.

Being briefed by our NC/CIC and seeing the language are two very very different things. Try asking any rep detailed questions about some of the items in the implementation schedule. They haven't been able to answer some of the pretty important ones. They haven't been given expanded language on it yet. But we're all supposed to vote on this in less than 24 days from now. Again, it'll most likely pass but something isn't right.

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Originally Posted by yesto67 (Post 3692893)

Exactly. If the MEC rejects the TA, the membership will implode, heads will roll, and we won’t see another TA for a couple years.

Wouldn't be my guess. I'd say a revised TA would be out for a vote a month late.

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Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3692968)

Wouldn't be my guess. I'd say a revised TA would be out for a vote a month late.

that’s what they said about tumi 1.0

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Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3692968)

Wouldn't be my guess. I'd say a revised TA would be out for a vote a month late.

What makes you say that? Is it just a hunch?

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Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3692861)

you talking about the same MEC that voted a month ago to unanimously pass the AIP that became the TA? If they do then hopefully every flip/flop yes/no rep will be booted. This needs to go to Member Ratification… that ship sailed

There's precedent.

cough cough.... J Barton. cough cough

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Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 3692878)

The push to rush through this part of the process by some makes me suspicious. It's a bad look. Bad vibe.

They voted on bullet points. Broad ideas. Without the benefit of final language. A vote for an AIP and a vote for a TA are not required to be the same. Otherwise, why vote again? I know many want to hurry up and get this over with but this part of the process is necessary. Governed by the policy manual. The language has to be vetted and the reps just got the final language on the same day we did.

I'm sure this will get past the MEC and will end up going to ratification. Everyone will have their chance to vote. But it's way too early to threaten a recall if a rep reads the final language and sees too many easter eggs. I know many want to get their hands on their retro check but relax and let this play out. We've had the language for less than a week. Chill.

If your MEC voted on bullet points they were truly doing a terrible job. The MEC should have been in near constant communication with the NC throughout the process. They should have been getting weekly updates and have been providing direction to the NC on a ongoing basis.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3693206)

exactly… my guess is 4 reps will vote NO on pretty much anything written because they are politicians… and somehow even they voted for the AIP… but bet they flip because they have eyes on the MC spot.

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Originally Posted by AbjectFutility (Post 3692990)

What makes you say that? Is it just a hunch?

If it’s his hunch then I hope he never listens to his gut - lol

18-5. Now it’s a party, MRAT being a forgone conclusion.

congrats to all… because make no mistake, whether you vote yes or no, when it passes.. you own it. It’s your’s. ENJOY