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BlueOceanSky 10-02-2023 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 3704457)
Yup, I’d say ORD is going to grow significantly in the medium to long term. IAD has much more immediate potential just by adding banks, and new gates will add to that down the road.

With the new construction plans, there isn’t any new gate additions. Terminal 2 is turning into the international terminal being shared with AA. And the current F and E gates will be replaced by the satellite concourses. No new net add on for gates.. at best maybe 1 or two.

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/fi...pendix_B_3.pdf

DarkSideMoon 10-02-2023 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOceanSky (Post 3705557)
With the new construction plans, there isn’t any new gate additions. Terminal 2 is turning into the international terminal being shared with AA. And the current F and E gates will be replaced by the satellite concourses. No new net add on for gates.. at best maybe 1 or two.

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/fi...pendix_B_3.pdf

It’s worth noting that the replacement gates will all accommodate mainline aircraft while the current F gates can only accommodate mainline at a few gates.

So daily United branded flights probably won’t change much but there is the possibility of pretty significant mainline growth.

BlueOceanSky 10-02-2023 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3705576)
It’s worth noting that the replacement gates will all accommodate mainline aircraft while the current F gates can only accommodate mainline at a few gates.

So daily United branded flights probably won’t change much but there is the possibility of pretty significant mainline growth.

Good point. I will admit, I’m not sure about those new gates that have three different aircraft positions (A, b, c). Does that mean they could park and service two narrow bodies at the same time (eg. a and c?. If that’s the case I counted ~95 gates in total which would be about 10 more gates compared to what’s there now.

DarkSideMoon 10-02-2023 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOceanSky (Post 3705580)
Good point. I will admit, I’m not sure about those new gates that have three different aircraft positions (A, b, c). Does that mean they could park and service two narrow bodies at the same time (eg. a and c?. If that’s the case I counted ~95 gates in total which would be about 10 more gates compared to what’s there now.

I believe so just based on the end of C in the current layout (shows one widebody or two NB).

Thanks for posting that document, lots of interesting info. And to your point there’s nothing saying they will use those satellite gates for mainline (although that does seem to be the overall plan with shrinking express). So we’ll see what actually ends up happening.

HuggyU2 10-02-2023 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 3696434)
You might not retire in the top few hundred but youll still have a great career at United.

He may be right. "Perspective" is important.

Keep in mind, he may be 1 year senior to you. Right now, that means ~2300 numbers.

Almost 5,000 if he's 2 years ahead of you.


I got hired at the end of "the last wave".

Pilots 1000 junior to me were hired 7 years, 9 months after me.
Pilots 1000 senior to me were hired 11 months before me.

I'm a double-furloughee. I was hired at age 36. And I'll may not see widebody captain when I retire at age 65.

No complaints. My career has been pretty good, considering all factors. But I made lemons out of lemonade.

Play the long game.

HuggyU2 10-02-2023 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 3696434)
You might not retire in the top few hundred but youll still have a great career at United.

He may be right. But keep in mind, he may be 1 year senior to you. Right now, that means ~2300 numbers. Almost 5,000 if he's 2 years ahead of you.

As for me... I got hired at the end of "the last wave".

Pilots 1000 junior to me were hired 7 years, 9 months after me.
Pilots 1000 senior to me were hired 11 months before me.

I would speculate that, currently, we are not far from the "end of the wave".

No complaints. My career has been good, considering all factors.

Play the long game.

FlyingNasaForm 10-06-2023 07:19 AM

I’m a corporate pilot that lives in New Jersey. I am on call 24/7 but only “work” 10-12 days a month. Is it possible to be at home that much at UA if you consider days not used on reserve as “off days”?

I was thinking of bidding captain ASAP and sit reserve at home.

PK387 10-06-2023 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm (Post 3707116)
I’m a corporate pilot that lives in New Jersey. I am on call 24/7 but only “work” 10-12 days a month. Is it possible to be at home that much at UA if you consider days not used on reserve as “off days”?

I was thinking of bidding captain ASAP and sit reserve at home.

In some categories, absolutely. As a junior EWR NB CA though? You're going to get used and abused.

WakeTurb5 10-06-2023 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 3705607)
I'm a double-furloughee. I was hired at age 36. And I'll may not see widebody captain when I retire at age 65.

No complaints. My career has been pretty good, considering all factors. But I made lemons out of lemonade.

Play the long game.

how long did each furlough last?

ThumbsUp 10-06-2023 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm (Post 3707116)
I’m a corporate pilot that lives in New Jersey. I am on call 24/7 but only “work” 10-12 days a month. Is it possible to be at home that much at UA if you consider days not used on reserve as “off days”?

I was thinking of bidding captain ASAP and sit reserve at home.

You're going to get the gamut of replies from super easy to the worst ever. The reality is that it depends on how much one works the system to their favor. You can do very little if your idea of doing very little is being on the company rope. That goes for both NB FO & CA. WBFO is your best bet, though, at doing the least. Not sure about the FO side, but NB CA at EWR on reserve averaged about 35 hours last month with some in the single digits.


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