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09-23-2023 | 03:48 PM
#61
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Feel bad for some of these people following the "bud light family"- vaxxed or un-vaxxed.
09-23-2023 | 11:56 PM
#63
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[QUOTE=worstpilotever;3700785]
You do realize that side effects are subjective right? It's called the placebo effect.
If a person felt coerced into taking something he didn't want, the prevalence of side effects, to them, is probably going to be off the charts.
Personally, I am stoked to have had 4 shots of probably one of the greatest scientific and technological achievements of a generation.
these two fundamentally different attitudes are going to produce remarkably different side effects that manifest themselves in very real ways. You can argue the details of the differing attitudes forever, but to suggest that someone is lying about their side effects because you think the vaccine is great (as I also do) is ridiculous.
If a person felt coerced into taking something he didn't want, the prevalence of side effects, to them, is probably going to be off the charts.
Personally, I am stoked to have had 4 shots of probably one of the greatest scientific and technological achievements of a generation.
these two fundamentally different attitudes are going to produce remarkably different side effects that manifest themselves in very real ways. You can argue the details of the differing attitudes forever, but to suggest that someone is lying about their side effects because you think the vaccine is great (as I also do) is ridiculous.
09-24-2023 | 04:56 AM
#64
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The vaccine debates are ridiculous. I’m not an antivaxxer nor a pro vaxxer. I honestly don’t care either way and got it for several reasons including one of them being retaining my high paying job. If a company deems a requirement necessary for its employees that’s their prerogative, either fall in line or look for something else to do.
The mindset of “if it’s bad for one, it’s bad for all” as the con letter so proudly states is nauseating. I vote for me and my family that looks to me for support them. I couldn’t care less if a radical sect of our group is unhappy about a particular loa or less than desired provision. It’s pretty hard to justify why daddy is turning down a contract that would keep him home more with much more money so that a lunatic in Montgomery county can stand on her soap box and rant like the mentally unstable person she is.
The mindset of “if it’s bad for one, it’s bad for all” as the con letter so proudly states is nauseating. I vote for me and my family that looks to me for support them. I couldn’t care less if a radical sect of our group is unhappy about a particular loa or less than desired provision. It’s pretty hard to justify why daddy is turning down a contract that would keep him home more with much more money so that a lunatic in Montgomery county can stand on her soap box and rant like the mentally unstable person she is.
09-24-2023 | 06:39 AM
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The emails from the antivax groups that liken getting a vaccine to a sex change operation aren't helping how people view them. A rational argument would go a lot further. They don't like educated people that came up with the covid vaccine and now they don't like the educated alpa lawyer explaining "unilaterally" to them. I don't know who they trust but it isn't going to be a "sex change" argument guy over a practicing lawyer.
09-24-2023 | 06:41 AM
#66
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The emails from the antivax groups that liken getting a vaccine to a sex change operation aren't helping how people view them. A rational argument would go a lot further. They don't like educated people that came up with the covid vaccine and now they don't like the educated alpa lawyer explaining "unilaterally" to them. I don't know who they trust but it isn't going to be a "sex change" argument guy over a practicing lawyer.
09-24-2023 | 06:45 AM
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[QUOTE=banned;3700897]
You do realize that side effects are subjective right? It's called the placebo effect.
If a person felt coerced into taking something he didn't want, the prevalence of side effects, to them, is probably going to be off the charts.
Personally, I am stoked to have had 4 shots of probably one of the greatest scientific and technological achievements of a generation.
these two fundamentally different attitudes are going to produce remarkably different side effects that manifest themselves in very real ways. You can argue the details of the differing attitudes forever, but to suggest that someone is lying about their side effects because you think the vaccine is great (as I also do) is ridiculous.
You have to wonder how many of the people experiencing "side effects" are really just experiencing psycho-somatic symptoms just because they were told to be afraid of the vaccine. People who say the vaccine was "unproven" and "untested" are objectively wrong, but some are addicted to fear and rage, and will regurgitate whatever Tucker Carlson tells them to be mad about.
You do realize that side effects are subjective right? It's called the placebo effect.
If a person felt coerced into taking something he didn't want, the prevalence of side effects, to them, is probably going to be off the charts.
Personally, I am stoked to have had 4 shots of probably one of the greatest scientific and technological achievements of a generation.
these two fundamentally different attitudes are going to produce remarkably different side effects that manifest themselves in very real ways. You can argue the details of the differing attitudes forever, but to suggest that someone is lying about their side effects because you think the vaccine is great (as I also do) is ridiculous.
09-24-2023 | 07:12 AM
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[QUOTE=Bestglide;3700819]
well I did fly the short bus for awhile, so yeah, im pretty special.
I believe you can have side effects, I asked you to tell us what they are. you didnt. makes think you dont really have side effects, you are just outraged at having to do something you didnt want to do. did you have side effects from your polio vaccine? measles vaccine?
I believe you can have side effects, I asked you to tell us what they are. you didnt. makes think you dont really have side effects, you are just outraged at having to do something you didnt want to do. did you have side effects from your polio vaccine? measles vaccine?
09-24-2023 | 07:34 AM
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[QUOTE=AntiCompanyMan;3700974]
You have to wonder how many of the people experiencing "side effects" are really just experiencing psycho-somatic symptoms just because they were told to be afraid of the vaccine. People who say the vaccine was "unproven" and "untested" are objectively wrong, but some are addicted to fear and rage, and will regurgitate whatever Tucker Carlson tells them to be mad about.
and in some cases they are actual side effects. I had no problem getting the vaccine but I wouldn’t do it again.
A couple weeks after the second shot, I started having a constant mild discomfort in my hands that has yet to subside.. been tested for arthritis and a host of other things but the only thing my doctors (not tucker) have been Able to conclude is that it’s a side-effect of the Pfizer shot.
You have to wonder how many of the people experiencing "side effects" are really just experiencing psycho-somatic symptoms just because they were told to be afraid of the vaccine. People who say the vaccine was "unproven" and "untested" are objectively wrong, but some are addicted to fear and rage, and will regurgitate whatever Tucker Carlson tells them to be mad about.
A couple weeks after the second shot, I started having a constant mild discomfort in my hands that has yet to subside.. been tested for arthritis and a host of other things but the only thing my doctors (not tucker) have been Able to conclude is that it’s a side-effect of the Pfizer shot.
09-24-2023 | 07:40 AM
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[QUOTE=744ButtonPusher;3701009]
and in some cases they are actual side effects. I had no problem getting the vaccine but I wouldn’t do it again.
A couple weeks after the second shot, I started having a constant mild discomfort in my hands that has yet to subside.. been tested for arthritis and a host of other things but the only thing my doctors (not tucker) have been Able to conclude is that it’s a side-effect of the Pfizer shot.
you mention this to your AME?
and in some cases they are actual side effects. I had no problem getting the vaccine but I wouldn’t do it again.
A couple weeks after the second shot, I started having a constant mild discomfort in my hands that has yet to subside.. been tested for arthritis and a host of other things but the only thing my doctors (not tucker) have been Able to conclude is that it’s a side-effect of the Pfizer shot.
