Hiring environment is completely different from 5 year ago when I left the military. United policy at the time was “100 hrs in something more complex than a cessna”. Every other airline I met at job fairs said they want recent turbine time and I was competing against regional pilots with 10,000+ hours. Oh how times have changed.

My exit plan contained enough savings to cover 3 years of time at the regionals before their current rates and bonuses. It is a completely different show now and it is likely you won’t be at one for more than a few bid periods before getting a call at a LCC or even a major. Very common in our new hire classes to see people from Spirit, Allegiant, Jet Blue and Alaska with less than 1 year in their previous company. I think a recent class was comprised of almost 50% SWA pilots.

There is a seat for you at a major probably inside 12-18 months if you started getting current today. The majors are scraping the bottom of the barrel but not to the point where they are taking pilots that haven’t been flying consistently and quite often professionally.

Thats a different story then, Apply and see…

You are right, but I do know that United isn’t going to touch someone with a Unrestricted-ATP unless they are military…

Yeah, that wasn't directed at you, but for the questions about when will I get hired with X many hours, these quals, etc., our answers are generally meaningless.

Apply, go to a job Fair and meet the pilot recruitment team. You’re in the zone of interest.

Thanks for the reply, I was more looking for someone to chime in who was recently hired with those quals. Not looking for HR here :D

I've spoken to a few people with 800-900 turbine time with interview invites recently. My advice would be apply asap and it would certainly be possible to receive a call within a few months if you're flying a decent amount.

Thanks, yes picking up a ton.

What’s everyone’s opinion on getting hired with a 121 initial checkride failure about 7 months ago?

Long story short, my sim partner fell asleep during the checkride (not a joke) and I blew through single engine RNAV mins. Went back the next morning and did one V1 cut to SE RNAV and was good to go.

I am currently in the Aviate program but my date is years away. I have pretty good connections within United that I could lean on if I must, but trying not to do that. I'm also prior enlisted military with a good record there.

Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. -TPP

What does “years” mean? I thought it was 1600 PIC…..maybe 2 years if you crank hard?

How much total and PIC presently?

Sorry to hear about your sim partner. But definitely don’t go in with the mindset that he’s the one who caused the bust. HR and the interviewing CA don’t want to hear blame, but more about what you’ve learned about the experience and how that has shaped you going forward. You probably are aware of this, however for some they still need to hear it. It’s surprising how many people go in and blame others for something in their background.

It certainly will help to get a few more 121 rides/MVs under your belt so they can see that it was a one time thing, and not that it is going to be a pattern.

Aviate also seems to slow the hiring off the street if you’re in it, so you most likely still have some time to get some more experience under your belt. Keep chugging along and best of luck.

This thread has already gone on too long. The OP has had as much advice as any of us can give him. Now it’s up to him to “do or do not”…..

Now they give you a “flow date”. Mine isn’t until late 2025.

And it’s late 2023 now :D

Again, what are your present totals? Would you even be competitive outside of Aviate? You did mention you had this checkride 7 months ago. CA or FO?

2000 TT, 500 Turbine. FO. I’d be willing to even pay out of pocket to get a bus or 73 type. lol

Upgrade quickly, kill the checkride, enjoy flying with your favorite Captain (you) for a while, and come over in ‘25. I’m not sure you have a more solid path than that. Maybe time at an LCC would help, but why even waste the time in class to trim off maybe 6 months to your timeframe and lose the guaranteed flow?