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Old 10-14-2023 | 12:47 AM
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Word on the street is that UA is still hiring at ATP Mins? I have 1527 hours, mostly military turbine. I have been reluctant to go pay 10K to get my ATP but also don't want to go to the regionals. If I feel confident I could get hired at UA, American or another legacy, I'd spring for it.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SandMan2
Word on the street is that UA is still hiring at ATP Mins? I have 1527 hours, mostly military turbine. I have been reluctant to go pay 10K to get my ATP but also don't want to go to the regionals. If I feel confident I could get hired at UA, American or another legacy, I'd spring for it.

If you’re military, United just started a program that doesn’t require you to have an ATP

https://careers.united.com/us/en/uni...-pilot-program
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Old 10-14-2023 | 02:01 AM
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I did read about that new program - sounds great, except I'm in the reserves and it's only for active duty pilots who are more than 6 months from separation. I guess the main question is whether they'll waive the ATP practical (I'll have my written) for me or not.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SandMan2
Word on the street is that UA is still hiring at ATP Mins? I have 1527 hours, mostly military turbine. I have been reluctant to go pay 10K to get my ATP but also don't want to go to the regionals. If I feel confident I could get hired at UA, American or another legacy, I'd spring for it.
Go get your ATP and spend 10K for a multi million dollar career.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 03:29 AM
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Go get your ATP and spend 10K for a multi million dollar career.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SandMan2
I did read about that new program - sounds great, except I'm in the reserves and it's only for active duty pilots who are more than 6 months from separation. I guess the main question is whether they'll waive the ATP practical (I'll have my written) for me or not.
I agree with the above, go get the ATP. No legacy will touch you without one. I know you said you didn’t want to go to a regional, but honestly I would save the money and have have a regional without a training contract pay for it for you. While they are hiring a few around that TT, it certainly is not the norm. Plus a little bit of 121 experience on your part will only help you be successful at United.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 05:52 AM
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I agree with the above, go get the ATP. No legacy will touch you without one. I know you said you didn’t want to go to a regional, but honestly I would save the money and have have a regional without a training contract pay for it for you. While they are hiring a few around that TT, it certainly is not the norm. Plus a little bit of 121 experience on your part will only help you be successful at United.
Delta will hire mil pilots with only the written ATP, and several of my friends took advantage of that policy and it's why they're at Delta and not United.

That being said, not having the full ATP only limits you. Yeah paying 10k on a plastic card to re-prove you are capable of flying a complex aircraft around the world is dumb, but you need it to get hired. Going to the regionals may save you 10 grand, but a 6 month stint at the regionals will also cost you 1,000 seniority numbers and 6 months of legacy airline pay, which is *just a bit* more than $10,000. From that limited information you seem competitive if you check the other boxes and depending on what skeletons you have in your closet. Also if you go to the regionals you likely won't be quickly hired by whatever legacy is partnered with that regional, and I've heard a lot of regionals aren't hiring FO's because they don't have enough captains on hand to justify bringing more FO's on board.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 06:43 AM
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Sandman2,

$10,000 is chump change to what you will earn at any major carrier. If the carrier where you want to work has the requirement, go get it. If it doesn’t don’t. (Frankly I would get it any way, looks good on the resume and the carriers you interview with which don’t require it know you can always interview with those that do)

I am sort of surprised that you even have to ask the question. This is the golden ($$$) age for commercial airline pilots. I am sorry I have only a few years to enjoy it. Good luck.
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Old 10-14-2023 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SandMan2
I have been reluctant to go pay 10K to get my ATP but also don't want to go to the regionals.
You are going to need an ATP one way or another. Every month you spend thinking about this means ~200 more people hired that will always be more senior than you. It's also not going to cost 10k. Get the test-prep app from Sheppard Air. Use your GI Bill to take the ATP/CTP class (I did mine at CAE). Then go to any of the ATP diploma-mills that cater to military and spend less than 5k. But make your reservation for the ATP now since they have a long waiting list.
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