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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 3720999)
The industry is fundamentally changed enjoying unprecedented pricing power since deregulation, but without MASSIVE government intervention the Covid pandemic would have bankrupted most airlines. How soon we forget.
And if you don't think 28,000 United pilots by 2030 is emotionally based then you aren't paying attention. 21000 is the number most likely by 2030 with 1200 mainline aircraft currently 926 aircraft with 16700 pilots so another 270 some aircraft growth will produce max another 5000 pilots The rest is selling points to attract pilots |
Originally Posted by WXS15
(Post 3719535)
16600 pilots today
Add another 200 to finish out 2023 Add another 15000 (2500/yr for six years, also assumes none of those pilots hit retirement age before 2030) Subtract 3450 retiring through 2029 (age 67 drops that number to 2050) ---------- 28400 pilots Of course, no one really thinks this hiring rate will continue for another half dozen years... |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3721106)
There aren’t that many eligible pilots in the workforce. Regionals have mostly stopped hiring FOs, so there’s a huge backlog in that department, as well.
regional flying will come to mainline ( thats where the expansion and growth will come from ) Time will tell if there are or not eligible pilots I think there will be always eligible pilots to be hired Let’s hope we don’t have a black swan before 2030 |
Why does anyone doubt the 28,000 number? We are hiring 2000 every year post COVID. If that continues then we’ll reach that number or darn close at least in 7 years
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 3721314)
Why does anyone doubt the 28,000 number? We are hiring 2000 every year post COVID. If that continues then we’ll reach that number or darn close at least in 7 years
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 3721314)
Why does anyone doubt the 28,000 number? We are hiring 2000 every year post COVID. If that continues then we’ll reach that number or darn close at least in 7 years
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 3720999)
The industry is fundamentally changed enjoying unprecedented pricing power since deregulation, but without MASSIVE government intervention the Covid pandemic would have bankrupted most airlines. How soon we forget.
And if you don't think 28,000 United pilots by 2030 is emotionally based then you aren't paying attention. |
Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 3721605)
To the tune of 63B. We were on the government doll for 18 months!! Prolly maxed out our lifetime welfare bennies. Short of that, the furloughs and bankruptcies would have been massive. Thanks be to Uncle Sam.
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Ooh! Found the guy who’s furious about the ratification bonus because it means more taxes.
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 3721314)
Why does anyone doubt the 28,000 number?
I have a feeling everybody's forecasts are going to need "adjustments" after the next recession. |
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