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Originally Posted by JohnnyBoston (Post 3721213)

No degree here, but I can string together a sentence and hold a conversation.

On a good day.

still have common ground

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If 97% post-covid is true, that suggests <90% in the last several months.

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Originally Posted by 500RVR (Post 3721082)

Not true a significant number of pilots have been hired at all legacies last year or two (since all dropped 4 year degree requirement).

Senior UAL 777 CA - Provide career counseling and mentoring.
FYI - No 4 year degree

L-CAL hired tons of pilots without 4 year degrees. It was almost the norm rather than the exception. When were you hired and on which side?

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Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3721347)

L-CAL hired tons of pilots without 4 year degrees. It was almost the norm rather than the exception. When were you hired and on which side?

Really? When? The 1980s? When I was hired at CAL you absolutely had to. Heck, the COEX recruiters couldn’t hire pilots without bachelor’s degrees due to the flow through program. I’ve met several L-UAL pilots hired in the late 1990s without a degree. I was honestly surprised.

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3721212)

Gonna be fun when the post 9/11 guy who got a masters degree to goose the resume and get hired gets to fly with the guy who doesn’t have any college whatsoever.

“So… do you like… stuff?”

Because only people with degrees can maintain conversations, right. lol.

Last two without degree I flew with was there attitudes
As the problem

I went to CCC. County Corrections Center 😁…. err County Community College. I like to point that out to Riddle grads. $16/cr hour in 1987. Haha. Been here for 25 years. My buddy did the early retirement during COVID, but he went to the USMC as a grunt. That’s the only education he got besides HS. He did 30 years here.

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3721379)

Last two without degree I flew with was there attitudes
As the problem

And yet you can't even string together a coherent sentence.

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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3721364)

1987, but when I was hired at CAL 95% plus did have a four year degree or higher. Had a classmate leave for United in 1989/90, guess what he had no degree either.

Let’s get this thread back on track, in the past not having a 4 year degree at a major was rare. At a Legacy prior to the last 18/24 months less then 3% were hired without a degree.

Today. that’s not the case due to the largest unprecedented pilot shortage in the history of the industry. Where we are hiring en masse the least experienced pilots as a whole ever. Reason there is no one left.

That’s why I suggest to forgo a degree (at present) for a seniority number asap. Because more than likely this will massive hiring spree will not last forever. Based on the cyclical nature of this industry when the music stops all that counts is your seniority number. History has proven more than likely we will have downturns with furloughs and possibly black swan events with massive furloughs.

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Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3721367)

Because only people with degrees can maintain conversations, right. lol.

Of course, and they can fly better too. What? You didn’t know that?