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ThumbsUp 01-06-2024 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by 60av8tor (Post 3746787)
I'm 45% in BES. With just that info alone, what does it mean? That's what the summary gives you. You said you'd never bid off the vacancy page. I said the same thing. Nor would I bid knowing a percentage without knowing what that percentage is going to get me. I'm top 10% SFO 756 - awesome! - until I look at the bid package (and obviously SFO). That's all I was saying.

I guess I'm missing the reason for your sarcasm. I was trying to add value to this discussion and help the guy asking the question; not trying to step on your toes. Been a member here long enough that I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I will add that the % on the bidding screen is only based on min/max as of the latest update. It is only somewhat valid after the award when it disappears. I use the word "somewhat" because it is forward looking, meaning it does not take into account that the people above you have left, nor are the people below you trained so that the company can use that manpower to translate it into something that affects schedules.

Dynamiterabbit 01-07-2024 06:37 PM

For those that are awarded captain in BI, I understand they’ll be an FO in that base until captain upgrade requirements are met (about a year).

There haven’t been any SFO FOs in BI for the last few months. So for the foreseeable future, will the bottom of the SFO 737 FO list just be new hire captains waiting for upgrade? Seems like a strange situation. Is there that little of a need for FOs in SFO?

RaginCajun 01-08-2024 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3746280)
Junior mostly due to the expense of living in the Bay Area & the WX complications of commuting there. Reserve is reserve but much more palatable if you live in base. That is true of the old contract & the new.

The calculus is pretty simple supply & demand. The increased pay of upgrade is not sufficient compensation for the associated loss of QOL & relative seniority to entice enough volunteers. This is also true of both the old contract & new.

What Wx complications?

eagleatr 01-08-2024 04:10 AM

Fog mostly. Slows down the arrival rate a lot.

Rangi 01-08-2024 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by eagleatr (Post 3747788)
Fog mostly. Slows down the arrival rate a lot.

And the upcoming closure of 28L for the next seven months beginning 1/15.

Swakid8 01-08-2024 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Dynamiterabbit (Post 3747713)
For those that are awarded captain in BI, I understand they’ll be an FO in that base until captain upgrade requirements are met (about a year).

There haven’t been any SFO FOs in BI for the last few months. So for the foreseeable future, will the bottom of the SFO 737 FO list just be new hire captains waiting for upgrade? Seems like a strange situation. Is there that little of a need for FOs in SFO?

Most of the 737 FO growth has be focused mainly IAH, DEN, EWR…. That is why, we have a large amount of 737 FO vacancies in those bases, some of them unfilled due to the large number of them and as a result is offered to New Hires.


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