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GoCats67 01-05-2024 03:21 PM

new vacancy bid 24-06V
 
Guess nobody told Manpower Planning they were suppossed to shrink IAH 737 now that the new contract allows forced Captains!

SFO 777 CA 10

DCA 737 CA 15

DEN 737 CA 60

EWR 737 CA 40

IAH 737 CA 40

LAS 737 CA 5

ORD 737 CA 60

SFO 737 CA 60

GUM 737 CA 6



SFO 777 FO 15

EWR 756 FO 40

IAH 737 FO 90

ORD 737 FO 100

GUM 737 FO 6

82spukram 01-05-2024 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=GoCats67;3746476]Guess nobody told Manpower Planning they were suppossed to shrink IAH 737 now that the new contract allows forced Captains!

I think IAH has 1 or 2 more bids like this. Once the new hires (less then a year on property) can start going to class and they begin to lap the process you will see the stagnation. I also asked in charm school before the IAH growth what the plan was for IAH with respect to United Next. The numbers we are at is where they wanted to be (approximately 750 crews on 737 and 200 on Airbus, wide bodies depended on to many things to offer any approximate numbers). There will be some movement but nothing like this unless then find even with the contract provision in the UPA23 they still can’t meet demand then we will see additional crews being offered in hubs with unbalanced flying (ie flying block hours for EWR, SFO, and DEN out of IAH)

JetMonkey 01-06-2024 12:16 PM

What's the most junior WB cappy DOH now at United.

kangs 01-06-2024 12:23 PM

What does this all mean for the CA positions for new hires?

UALinIAH 01-06-2024 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by JetMonkey (Post 3746998)
What's the most junior WB cappy DOH now at United.

WB CA DOH is wildly different depending on if you were sUAL or sCAL. Currently the junior WB CA is an SFO based 777 CA who's sUAL. She was hired 3/99 but sandwiched around are sCAL hires from 11/06.

Better metric is seniority. 56XX

Sniper66 01-06-2024 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3747036)
WB CA DOH is wildly different depending on if you were sUAL or sCAL. Currently the junior WB CA is an SFO based 777 CA who's sUAL. She was hired 3/99 but sandwiched around are sCAL hires from 11/06.

Better metric is seniority. 56XX


by oct 2025 anyone with 6400 seniority could be a reserve WB captain
23 787s should arrive by then if Boeing does not screw up again

150 787s from 9/2024 ( small delay there , thanks Boeing ) to 5/2032 firm orders unless some drastic happens

UALinIAH 01-06-2024 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3747053)
by oct 2025 anyone with 6400 seniority could be a reserve WB captain
23 787s should arrive by then if Boeing does not screw up again

150 787s from 9/2024 ( small delay there , thanks Boeing ) to 5/2032 firm orders unless some drastic happens

I agree, was just giving a current snapshot. In theory it should keep getting more and more junior if for no other reason the 787 is the long term 767 replacement allowing a higher % to earn top pay scale.

But Boeing has been quite good at screwing things up for a while now...

JimmyS 01-06-2024 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3747053)
by oct 2025 anyone with 6400 seniority could be a reserve WB captain
23 787s should arrive by then if Boeing does not screw up again

150 787s from 9/2024 ( small delay there , thanks Boeing ) to 5/2032 firm orders unless some drastic happens

Respectfully, what makes you say this? Can you share more details about why you think this will happen?

Thank you.

Chuck D 01-06-2024 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by JimmyS (Post 3747165)
Respectfully, what makes you say this? Can you share more details about why you think this will happen?

Thank you.

not sure if you work here but last vacancy jr WB CA was 56xx. If we are adding a large number of WB the jr CA is likely going to go up.

TimetoClimb 01-06-2024 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3747036)
WB CA DOH is wildly different depending on if you were sUAL or sCAL. Currently the junior WB CA is an SFO based 777 CA who's sUAL. She was hired 3/99 but sandwiched around are sCAL hires from 11/06.

Better metric is seniority. 56XX

where can we see hire dates associated with seniority numbers?


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